• IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Which Squeenix game has ever met their expectations? Weren’t they also super disappointed with Tomb Raider and Hitman even though they moved millions of units.

    It seems that SE is severely out of touch with the current state of the industry and where they are positioned.

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      11 months ago

      It seems that SE is severely out of touch with the current state of the industry and where they are positioned.

      Considering how hard they tried to push NFT crap the past two years, I believe it.

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    11 months ago

    Maybe releasing exclusively on the Playstation but not pc or Xbox wasn’t the brilliant idea they thought it was 🤔

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    11 months ago

    According to Squeenix, what was the last game that actually managed to “meet expectations” according to them?

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      11 months ago

      Nothing. I remember Tomb Raider sold like 7 mil and they were crying about it

      And of course made the genius decision the next year to make the sequel Xbox exclusive for a year

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        11 months ago

        That Tomb Raider thing was completely asinine. It was a quality reboot of a series that had gone horribly off the rails with a lot of promise and Square tanked it with completely unreasonable expectations, apparently expecting sales in the dozens of millions. And here we are with FF apparently not meeting expectations as well–it’s easy to see where the issue is, and it’s not with the games.

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      11 months ago

      Off the top of my head, NieR: Automata was the last big one. Before that was the first Life is Strange.

      There’s also Octopath Traveler, which is perhaps relevant here because that was a game that filled a need on a hot platform. Taking relative install bases into account, FF16 probably had a better attach rate than FF15 did at this point in its lifecycle. I’m sure SQEX was hoping for a much higher rate than that given the slow pace of exclusives developed solely for PS5.

      I’m also going to speculate that, internally, there’s alarm over the Japan sales. SQEX is part of a group of Japanese publishers that have historically been very–if not unduly–sensitive to poor home performance.

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    11 months ago

    I’m excited to buy it when it comes to PC, but my single-player rpg backlog is long already. I’ll probably end up waiting for a sale, which shouldn’t take too long if articles like this keep coming.

    This will be my first single player FF since 10. I love XIV, so it seems to me that the hype of using the XIV team on this game wouldn’t add a huge amount of value to a PS5 exclusive release when the majority of XIV players are on PC, and others are still on PS4. It’s not like PC enjoyers and PS4-content players are going to go buy a PS5 just to play it early. They’re waiting for the port, then they’re waiting longer still for the port to be fixed.

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    They really need to take a step back and remember why people enjoy the franchise. I enjoyed the characters and the gameplay but they keep changing it. 12 was the beginning of the end of turn based combat. I still like 12 but give us a mainline turn based game. It can be fun and people will like it. Just make good characters.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah imo FF12 was the last legit FF game. FF15 is fine, but doesn’t feel at all like FF to me, and I have zero interest in FF16.

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    There is no single piece of media that has had more impact on me throughout my life than the Final Fantasy series. I enjoyed the first half or so of 15 so much that I thought for sure it would be my new favorite game of all time. It devolved into such a shit heap that I couldn’t even bring myself to play it post updates & DLC. It along with KH3 has left me sour on all of Square’s modern releases. I was pleasantly surprised by FF7 Remake and will play FF16 at some point. Even a mediocre Final Fantasy is better than what 15 gave us.

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      The Remake is beautiful and isn’t a bad game, but every second that I’m playing it I keep asking myself “would I be having more fun playing the original?,” and every single time my answer is an immediate “yes.”

      If they had kept the same gameplay mechanics (yes, including traditional turn-based combat), the Remake might have been my all-time favorite game. As it is, it’s just a very pretty shadow of what it could have been.

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      11 months ago

      It did sell well however, selling over 3.5 million copies in the first 10 days. I don’t know how high Squeenix’s expectations were but it’s wild they thought it would sell higher for a game that only released on the PS5.

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          Apparently they expected selling more than FFXV

          The last numbered instalment, Final Fantasy 15, remains the series’ fastest-selling entry with 5 million units shipped and sold digitally in its first 24 hours alone. This was across multiple platforms, however.

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              Also, XV wasn’t well received, generally speaking. I’m sure there are at least a few people (like me) who decided to wait on this one, to be safe. A damaged reputation can cause tangible sales impacts