I have an app for programming my chicken coop. My 401k company just created an app for onboarding new participants.
These should have been mobile friendly webpages.
Often, the apps are there just to collect ad information for you in a way browsers don’t allow.
Ding ding ding. It’s all about the tracking data. Also, notifications. They want to be able to buzz you with spam, to remind you that the app exists.
And send notifications
They want your precious data
Not everything needs and app
But then they couldn’t scrape maximum personal data, collect your contacts, have access to your mic and camera, and track your every physical movement. Your so selfish!
Its like when restaurants want to get people to order via a QR code on the physical menu and place your order on their website or app.
Like no. You are making this so much more awkward than it needs to be for the sake of novelty.
Restaurant near me tried to implement this during Covid. At the time I get it because people were trying to minimize risk and might have been worried about being around a waiter and getting infected etc.
But they still haven’t stopped it though. The worse thing is that the signal there is terrible so it takes 5 minutes for the damn thing to load in the first place.
True. Not everything does.
I rather have an app and a way to control the chicken coop offline that depend on the internet connection to whether my chicken coop works or not. That is in my opinion a right place for an app instead of a website.
Most online services don’t need an app though.
Like some kind of self hosted solution on Nextcloud or something. Maybe linked in with Home Assistant or able to access it remotely via Tailscale.
Feels like overkill but if I had the time and the money, I would love to tinker with a system like that lol
My 401k company just created an app for onboarding new participants.
“If you’d like me to run company software, you’ll have to provide a company device for me to run it on.”
Never install work software on a personal device. Security, Privacy, Expectations (regarding personal resources).
Along with this, never use personal software/accounts/services with company devices. You can’t be sure who’s watching and can’t be sure you’ll have a chance to remove/collect your personal data before being locked out of said device.
100% this. I put my foot down at my last job after finding out their app demanded device location when it wasn’t being used.
I got the fuck out the next week. Place is already sliding downhill fast
I have an app for programming my chicken coop
What kind of programming does a chicken coop need?
How much of a delay on the light sensor for the automatic door.
Yea idk why everyone wants Lemmy Apps, the browser ui is fine.
The most useful PWA I have found is Voyager, and its app counterpart is way better IMHO.
Native android/iOS apps are way smoother for daily navigation, you also get some perks like notifications and that.
I have not tried out voyager, but just from looking at it’s GitHub, it’s essentially just a web browser packed in a native app anyways.
Performance shouldn’t really be different from browser app to local app this way unless something is done wrong, or there’s some specific functionality, like async I/o that’s still unsupported.
Notifications are also a thing in web browsers nowadays. Most device features that you can access in a separate app are actually supported by now.
Nah, Voyager is primarily a pwa that works entirely in your phone’s browser.
They recently packaged it with a browser into an APK because lots of users asked for a “native app” for some reason. But the pwa is still there, and is still the main way it is developed
But no front end for Lemmy should ever need to be an app.
Because not everybody likes the stock interface of Lemmy. Same thing with Reddit, and why people chose to use third-party apps there, as well. Web apps aren’t always designed in the most intuitive ways for every user, and sometimes a native app can fill those UI/UX gaps, or add features that aren’t possible through a PWA.
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why PWA and not a plain web app? I think the only difference is that PWAs can ve turned into a pinned pop-up window (that acts a bit like an electron app) when using a chromium-based browser.
Even then, there’s a lot of feature you end up missing out on. Even just basic navigation has to be done via the browser’s default navigation options. Even simple things like long-pressing something on the page will typically only give you access to your browser’s long-press menu (though that’s not always the case, in my experience very few web apps handle this effectively).
Personally, I prefer the experience of a native app. But I get why it’s not appealing to all people.
This is a very popular opinion
Nothing needs an app.
I rather have an app when I need that stuff to work regardless of the internet connection.
my company’s payroll management software just rolled out an app called “swag”
that’s not a joke
I agree. It’s way more sus to download an app. The reason social media sites push apps over websites is because they can harvest a lot more data that way.
And not every program needs an installer.
Just because I downloaded a program to write ISOs to a USB drive, does not mean it needs to be installed on the system. Unless it’s something like MS Office, why does it need to be installed? Just give me a zip file, I will extract it and delete it when I don’t need it anymore.
I don’t know if you can communicate over Bluetooth via a webpage to program your chicken coop.
