• BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I just want a minimap and waypoints. Maybe a highlight function so that it’s easier to find the thing I need in a grocery store too but that seems a tad unrealistic

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      Grocery stores wouldn’t want that. They want you to spend as much time as possible in their store so you’ll likely put more products in your basket.

      In reality AR glasses would likely depend on external data/services provided by some large corporation which would probably make money by nudging the wearer of such a device towards spending more money.

      There might be a premium subscription model though…

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      How about a highlight function to pick my kid out of the crowd he dove into?

      How about a “yellow brick road” to follow when I want to get to the Emerald Castle?

      How about highlighting and magnifying those street signs that never seem visible enough, or house numbers as I approach my destination?

      How about highlighting dangers, warnings, because I’m paying too much attention to my phone and roll my ankle on that damn protruding gas valve every time around the block?

      Or, most importantly for those of us who can never seem to focus on the social aspects, how about a pop up bio for the person I’m talking to so I can remember their name and where I last talked to them?

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        how about a pop up bio for the person I’m talking to so I can remember their name and where I last talked to them?

        How about absolutely not? I don’t need every random jackass I interact with having information about me available at a glance. This would be abused in so many ways

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          It’s true that people always seem to find a way to misuse technology, but then you’re stuck with my lack of social skills, not remembering your name, or what we talked about last time I saw you

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        how about a pop up bio for the person I’m talking to so I can remember their name and where I last talked to them?

        This was actually one of the first uses for a Google glass like product proposed back in the 80s/90s.

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    The cool stuff is augmented reality. Basically low tech projected holograms. You have many informations in a heads-up display, kinda like they have in fighter jets already, or in video games, but you can have many things. Highlighting direction (when driving or walking), highlight things you’re looking for adding informations to objects you’re seeing… But we’re far away from this still.

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    9 months ago

    Imagine playing D&D in a park, with the monsters and spells blending seamlessly with the outside world

    Or AR projected onto a real tabletop for TTRPGs and board games

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    The author is missing the other use cases for high quality passthrough:

    • “Pausing” your VR experience temporarily to interact with the real world without taking off the headset. Checking a phone, grabbing a drink, etc.
    • Selective passthrough that allows seeing portions of the real world. Being able to see your own hands/arms/body is a huge improvement in VR. As is seeing your desk, chair, etc.
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      He’s not writing about the pros and cons of passthrough. He’s writing about Mixed Reality gaming’s potential to move headsets off shelves. e.g. Will people be hyped enough about XR to buy a headset? He thinks not.

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    While I appreciate and partially agree with his view, I’m personally glad they did tackle MR as soon as it was viable.

    I very much have a use case for it and I have been using the pro for it and being disappointed with the results. Our family hangs out together for hours every day. And while I can watch pretty much anything on TV and still enjoy both it and our conversations, lately I have taken to using mixed reality to continue participating in the social aspects of hanging out, while enjoying my own content. Usually I’m playing a game instead of watching TV.

    With mixed reality on the Quest pro, I can still see everyone’s faces and they can see enough of mine to get my facial expressions. But it’s tough for me to always make out what is happening on their TV. So I mostly have to go by audio cues to follow along with their content and any conversations they have relating to it.

    With the Quest 3, I’ll be able to see their screen too.

    And that’s not even mentioning just how nice it will be to look at my phone front and center rather than peaking through a hole, or just in the lower quarter of my vision on a Quest pro without the light blockers on. Or pinning another floating screen to my phone, like a text document stickynote type thing. Augmenting my phone could get interesting.

    Can’t wait til VR is more compatible with outdoors, I know they work fine outdoors, and being careful/vigilant with it is enough to make it already completely viable. But companies aren’t gonna jump on it or make software for that use case until it’s less likely to lead to an increase in headset failures overall. But I would love for headsets to have GPS and cell capabilities. Augmented outdoor exercise games are the main thing I’m waiting for. Though of course there are also risks to exercise gamification to sort through. Same sort of thing, people being encouraged to do it without knowing the risks or participating in mitigating them for themselves. Tough to get stuff like that realised.

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    Well if the cybernetically perfected master of the multiverse and sealer of the anti-life algorithm John Carmack says so it must be true.

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      9 months ago

      i mean i do rather feel that just a projector in the ceiling would be better, though

      Certainly less faff than having everyone wear a headset.

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        The thing with the headset thing, everyone could be in their own house with a headset as long as you used a standardized board.

        I’ve been doing D&D for years over voice chat with my friends, and this would definitely help with that.

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          but then we’re back to “why bother with AR?”, just use tabletop simulator VR which already exists.

          I guess it would be nice to be able to just walk to the kitchen and fetch snacks without having to take the headset off but really it’s not a big enough deal to matter.

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            TTS VR is not really that good or immersive, it’s a very dated program and we literally tried and stopped using it because of technical issues and a general lack of immersion.

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    Mixed reality has great practical applications, such as projecting studs and inside wall components on a surface so you know where to not put a hole.

    These applications could help justify buying a headset in general, pushing folks that want one for gaming additional reasons to justify it.

    So… there’s a roundabout way it could help gaming.

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    9 months ago

    I would be curious to hear him list some of the low hanging fruits.

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    I would like to have a HUD in real life. Shows me a path to where I am going on the ground. Pops up reviews on items I am looking at in the store.

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      Names above people I met so I don’t keep forgetting it. Maybe a short summary of earlier interactions.

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    He’s completely forgotten how extremely super useful it would be for industries.

    Instantly identify machines and components, quick and simple navigation, simple overview even over very large machine parks and similar environments along with simplified coordination, etc. Along with quick access to detailed documentation and status information and guides like visual repair instructions, etc.

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      Could not agree more. Industry is where this tech will shine. It has applications for home use as well.

      I was late to the game with learning house repair. What I wouldn’t give for a tool that could assist in identifying problems, identifying parts, or laying out the instructions for accomplishing a goal adapted to my situation.

      With most text and video blog spam “tutorials” enshitified to push more ads, I would jump all over something like that.

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    I get what he’s saying, but I just think that adding screens wherever I want them e.g. above me while lying down while still feeling in my own environment sounds way better than entering some other VR space entirely