The first sentence on the Wikipedia page for it calls it “a disputed medical condition.” Even the CIA itself has admitted that cases are not caused by “a sustained global campaign by a hostile power.” The State Department similarly released a report that it was highly unlikely the symptoms were caused by any sort of directed energy weapon. In fact, seven different US intelligence agencies released a consensus statement saying, “available intelligence consistently points against the involvement of US adversaries in causing the reported incidents.”

But the clowns on .world don’t care about things like truth or evidence, or even direct statements from the people who’s boots they have in their mouths. If it makes an enemy of the US look bad, then it is absolute truth, and anything short of complete faith and loyalty must be purged from conversation.

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  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    I have no love at all for most of the LW mods, and mostly don’t go there. But I suspect that your comment was removed because it sounds unhinged and shouty, and is attempting in part to convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you through sheer force of aggressiveness, rather than just citing why you think the story you’re commenting under is wrong / why you think it’s misinformation. It seems like anyone who wants to have a discussion with you from the opposing point of view is probably going to experience a lot more of the same, and so nothing productive will come of it.

    I don’t know if removing the comment entirely would be the right move, but it’s not indicative of opening a constructive dialogue on the topic with people there some of who will surely disagree with you.

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      It wasn’t removed for being shouty or aggressive, it was removed for “misinformation.” If the mods don’t like the tone, they should say so, and at least give me a chance to edit it. What they’re saying instead is, “This is indisputably proven true, there is no conversation to be had about this, and anyone claiming otherwise is a bad actor,” because that’s what a removal for misinformation means. Of course, they don’t have any evidence to back it up, because as I said, they don’t believe in sourcing claims or basing beliefs on evidence.

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        Chipping in as a former mod. We get a lot of reports. At some point, huge long run on paragraphs like this will get skimmed over. We don’t have the time or capacity to dissect every thesis that gets reported. If it throws up red flags (and this one throws up a lot), we make a judgement based on that. Sorry, but that’s how modding works.

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        I just read the comments there. The majority of the comments are agreeing with your viewpoint. Almost everyone thinks this news story is wrong, and they were all saying so. They just weren’t cocks about it.

        You were moderated for being shouty and unpleasant. Now, you’re being shouty and unpleasant here, and constructing a fiction where everyone is crazy liberal bootlickers trying to silence your truth, when everyone is way ahead of you on that particular truth, waiting for you to realize that they also agree with you.

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    Getting banned for disputing fucking havana syndrome is so fucking funny holy shit. That’s basically an honor imo

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      Why are you guys so addicted to victim complex?

      He wasn’t banned, his comment was removed. And it wasn’t for disputing Havana syndrome, most of the people in those comments were doing that. They just weren’t combative and unhinged about it.

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    Honestly, the mod probably didn’t get past the first sentence. That was an extremely hard to read rant with a lot of red flags. Can’t say I blame them.

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      Of course there were red flags, I’m a communist.

      Red flags for what exactly? That I’m not a part of their tribe? Because I say that pretty openly and consistently. Last I checked that’s not against the rules.

      And what exactly about my first sentence would justify my comment’s removal? Skepticism of the government?

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        I mean, ‘first sentence’ was a bit of hyperbole. But you get my gist. I’m not saying you were wrong or broke any rules, I’m just explaining why this happened.

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    I don’t know. I liked to tongue-in-cheek approach to making fun of the US govt and stupid conspiracy theory. Not everything requires seriousness and respect. I’m gonna go with a PTB here but a mild one since this wasn’t a full-on ban. But they’re definitely trigger-happy towards MLs (for good reason, but still)

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    Your comment was probably removed because first of all you extremely far from any sort of politness.

    Second of all you clearly fail to acknowledge that there have been multiple people disabled by something, we don’t know what. Whether or not it is some pathophysiological illness because of spy weapons, or something completely unrelated, we don’t know, but it’s indisputable that a large number of people were disabled in the same place in a similar timeframe by… somthing.

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      Your comment was probably removed because first of all you extremely far from any sort of politness.

      Then the mods should’ve listed that as the reason for removal.

      but it’s indisputable that a large number of people were disabled in the same place in a similar timeframe by… somthing.

      It actually is disputable, seeing as it’s, you know, “a disputed medical condition.” Yeah, some people had some symptoms, but what constitutes Havana Syndrome was always incredibly broad and vague, to the point that anything anyone experienced could be chalked up to it. It’s nothing but a socially constructed catch-all category for an array of pre-existing health conditions, responses to environmental factors, and stress reactions that were lumped under a single label.

      That is, by the way, verbatim from a scientific paper about it.

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      No, we know it’s not the result of some literally physics defying sci fi weapon.

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    One of my comments got removed for “misinformation” because I predicted Biden would send more support to Israel in his lame duck period while Bibi celebrates Trump’s return.

    I’m pretty sure it got removed because a mod responded to it with “nobody cares” on one of his alts and then I called him a nobody who cares enough to be childish about it on the internet.