• theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    Hamas wouldn’t exist if Israel didn’t commit genocide. You can’t win a war on terror. You can stop “terrorists” without hurting a single person though.

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      5 hours ago

      Hamas would not exist if Israel didn’t, it’s true, but the opposition to Israel did not originally come from genocide, Israel was attacked almost immediately upon its foundation. Whether putting there was a good idea or not is debatable (well okay it was an awful idea, but one of the other places they considered was Yugoslavia, which I’m sure would have been perfectly safe!) but Hamas and their ilk did not appear in response to Israel committing genocide

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        4 hours ago

        Israel was attacked almost immediately upon its foundation

        It was attacked for a reason. Pretending otherwise is dishonest. The Nakba led to the attacks.

        “The Nakba, Arabic for “catastrophe,” refers to the 700,000 Palestinians who fled or were driven out of what today is Israel before and during the war surrounding its creation in 1948.”

        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/palestinians-mark-the-nakba-the-original-catastrophe-of-mass-expulsion

        Do you see the “before” in that quote? The Nakba was the cause of the attacks.

        Beyond that israel was attacking the british and muslims in the area before israel became a nation-state again. This isnt the first israeli genocide in that area in service of building a new kingdom either. Its the third or fourth, depending how you count ethnic mass murders sprees of innocents as genocides. And Zealot/Zionist (Jewish far right splinter groups) terrorism has been ongoing since early Roman times at least.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars

        For those reasons alone, Israel should not have been granted statehood by the UN. Maybe the UN. thought giving them the state would settle the issue and the murders would stop, but the desire for ever more land shows no signs of stopping, and knows no shame or humanity.