I have an enterprise account and they added this button today. Guess what used to be there? The profile image where you could so conveniently swipe up or down to switch between gmail accounts. This is the kind of UI garbage that makes you want to move your entire company to another service just because you can.
Hey Google.
I still can’t create folders in the Android Gmail app. But somehow you had time for this?
“I’m sorry, I don’t know how to help with that”
Apparently they can’t roll out Gemini to my phone because I never gave them my birthday. It’s a really old account and they’ve been sending me notifications to add my birthday for years.
It’s for the best, I used to ask Google assistant for alarms and basic searches sometimes, Gemini gives excruciatingly long responses that won’t shut up and recently started responding with things from my past emails assumingly from the Gmail account needed to set up the phone. So now I don’t have Google assistant, and will no longer search anything with Gemini out of principle. Need a new phone OS it appears
Better than when they switched sides in the play store and my thumb couldn’t reach the check for updates :(
I asked Gemini how to clear the cache on Google messages. It did not know.
IT COULDNT ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE APP ITS PART OF
I asked Gemini to set up a counter as I always did on the other assistant and decided to tell me how much time there was left instead. I also asked it to play the news and it said it would but never did. I asked it if all cats knead and gave me a long explanation of what cats need. 😅
I can excuse the last one because of homophones even though ChatGPT got it immediately.
I’m pretty sure kneading is a way they mark territory and express feeling safe, glad to be corrected.
Gemini: “I can’t help you! I only work here!”
move
To who?
Wait on Proton for a hot minute. The CEO just came out with a pretty polarizing statement, I would wait until we see how that unfolds over the next few weeks.
Posteo is pretty damn good, too.
it should be considered harassment to advertise like this
Proton does something similar in their email client 🤢
Advertisements should be considered harassment.
We have a law in Mexico that says you can’t hang up advertisements outside your shop at kids’ eye level. I thought it was neat.
That is neat!
Is it true that in Spanish, the word “propaganda” can be used interchangeably with “publicidad,” which means advertising?
Hmm, I never thought about it but it’s apparently a thing. I’m a bit Americanized so my perception is a bit different than the general population, so TIL.
Here’s the official definition by the Royal Academy of Spain that confirms it:
https://dle.rae.es/propaganda
The only ads I get are from temu vaguely aligned with my interests
I do not sell drugs, I’m on the other side of that market
flute kinda looks like a fancy penjamin
I like using shotguns in videogames sometimes. I’ve only seen a real one a handful of times.
It is
Time to move to something else
Taking a play out of Microsoft’s book. Must be desperate.
I saw a Copilot prompt in MS PowerPoint today - top left corner of EVERY SINGLE SLIDE - and I had a quiet fit in my cubicle. Welcome to hell.
Ah yes, the slop button. Truly the pinnacle of productivity.
Despite have AI off as much as possible within our Google Workspace at work, today all of my coworkers have received multiple ads / prompts by Google to use Gemini. In Gmail, in Google Meet, and more. Our policies don’t allow us to use it so this is just ridiculous.
They are billing your company for it as well
No, it’s for free bro. Google promised!
While we are talking about shit that Google pulls that drives us crazy can we talk about the pop-up asking me if I know about driving mode EVERY SINGLE TIME I LAUNCH MAPS FROM MY CAR.
I fuckin know about it Google. I have said yes every single goddamn time. Stop fuckin asking me.
But how much do you really know about Driving Mode?
I know enough to drive my car into Google headquarters soon.
For legal reasons that is a joke and I have no intentions of driving my vehicle into the Google buildings.
Um, the profile icon is just slightly to the left now. Or did you mean something else?
In my non-enterprise accounts the profile pic is exactly where the Gemini is now. So I flip thru them and it moves back and forth. Just real dumb. They could have added the Gemini button inside the search bar and I could have kept ignoring it.
Ohh. I use a separate phone for work so I didn’t notice that. Yeah search bar would’ve been a better spot for sure.
It must be infuriating to work for whoever makes these decisions. I don’t think I would ever actually email them about anything because there’d be no way I could possibly trust that the reply I get is actually something they wrote
I replaced gmail with fairemail for similar reasons. I can’t stand their interface, designed to maximise clicks on the wrong locations.
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees (level 3? or level 2 for just $500 is enough?) at their friends at KPMG to do yearly audits of the code, so they will kill most alternatives in few years now that oauth is mandatory
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees
Does this mean K9 will have to pay Google to support adding gmail accounts?
Need to pay an auditor to check the code https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/13465431?hl=en
What a bunch of wankers
I used to use FairEmail, and IMO it’s one of the best email clients available on any platform, but it started acting weird as my account got larger. Taking forever to sync, not sending emails (just keeping them in the outbox), etc. I switched to K9 Mail, which has now become Thunderbird for Android.
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees (level 3? or level 2 for just $500 is enough?) at their friends at KPMG to do yearly audits of the code
On one hand, I think audits are a reasonable idea. Some of the most sensitive data is in people’s emails, and most accounts can have their passwords reset via email. You really wouldn’t want malicious code touching that stuff. On the other hand, that’s definitely a large expense for an open source project :/
I’m glad some providers are moving towards OAuth or OIDC for logging in to email. Regular auth is very outdated and doesn’t support two-factor auth. It’ll just take a while to get there.
for FOSS projects, google itself could sponsor the certification, if they really cared about security and not just closing the garden. The code is public and they could definitely write automated tests to check all they need to check, and at every single commit, and not just yearly, done in secret by some auditor.
For google drive integration, i saw that most devs are just removing support for it because doesn’t make sense to pay $500 yearly to support it when there’s a million of better alternatives
The code is public and they could definitely write automated tests to check all they need to check, and at every single commit
The other thing they’d need to verify is that the app that’s uploaded to the Play Store or whatever other platform it’s on matches the code, which can be hard to deal if the build isn’t reproducible (that is, if every build produces a binary that differs in some way, like if there’s a timestamp embedded in it). This is one reason I like F-Droid - F-Droid build and package the apps on their end, so you can guarantee that the compiled app matches the source code.
For google drive integration, i saw that most devs are just removing support for it
I’ve worked on both sides of this (a big tech company providing an API to access data, and a smaller company or open source project utilizing said API) so I understand both arguments.
In addition to cost, there’s also complexity, as often the big tech company’s compliance issues/requirements become the small developer’s compliance requirements too. For example, there can be issues with storing data from European users outside of the EU, you may need a terms of service or privacy policy that explains what you do with the data, you may need to handle erasing the data if the user deletes their Google account, etc. Other companies like Facebook have similar concerns, and the Facebook Graph API is relatively restrictive as a result (to prevent third party apps from abusing data, like what happened with Cambridge Analytica).
All of that adds a lot of overhead for people that are just creating small apps and want easy integrations.
Agree this is shit UX but…
How am I just now discovering you can do the swipe to change accounts
Yeah I used to go in the menu and click the other accounts one at a time until a friend showed me. Its this and removing the youtube click to add to queue popup that drive me bananas. They both worked so well why would you change it?
Same with the open tab number/button in Firefox mobile (and its derivatives). Swipe left/right on that button.
K-9 mail/Thunderbird Mail
Not totally Foss but I don’t think it is bad. I just like k-9 better.
K9 stopped supporting gmail, only thunderbird does now
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