But like, it doesn’t matter where you draw the line in gender affirming care definitions, but by the definition were going on based on this thread it includes hormone blockers.
How on Earth did I call you fat by pointing out that cis-males with obesity issues are far more common than trans people?
Guess you’ve some confidence to work on buddy, as talking about you didn’t even cross my mind. I pointed out a fact about gender-affirming care. Honestly, I assume that people are more or less closer to my age on Lemmy, so I genuinely didn’t consider that you might be actually a minor looking to get themselves some gender affirming care.
Yeah, puberty blockers are probably considered gender affirming care, but them not being included is just me being pedantic about the name. I guess “care which affirms your position of not being sure about your gender identity yet until you’re old enough to make one”.
You’re saying gender affirming care shouldn’t exist for minors despite not knowing the facts then when the facts are pointed out, you start screaming about me calling you fat.
Get off your high horse.
How is you supporting right wing policies being less of a dick than me pointing out your support of right wing policies, which might be because you don’t understand all the facts, not because you actually support the right, which is why I pointed out the facts which you took personal offense at?
Well you’re the one who went off on a rant on something I didn’t even bring. I was talking about hormone blockers and you went off onto surgeries. Then when I brought up how I also would have liked some gender affirming care when younger you said well there’s less trans people than fat boys. I never brought up weight, it’s another thing you brought up.
I just, you’re attacking me for trying to express my opinion. I’m open for civil discussion but you’ve been on the offense. If you have any points for anything I actually brought up that would be cool
Are you actively having a stroke? You were pretty politely informed and corrected and nowhere in the above responses were you attacked in anything but the most mild and tame interpretation of the word.
Then when I brought up how I also would have liked some gender affirming care when younger
You mean after you got angry at me, you edited your earlier comment to justify getting angry at me for quoting stats, as if I had actually made a personal slight when you hadn’t mentioned your age, gender, sex or health before my first reply.
“I was talking about hormone blockers”
You said “but actual gender affirming care should be left to when you can have a drink over it”.
So that sentence would include gender affirming care for cis males (which you hadn’t even identified as when I wrote those replies), and the gender affirming care they receive is getting moobs removed.
You wrote like 70% more text to your original comment. Making a wild strawman about how you should have been allowed to use as much testosterone as you wanted to, because you pretend that’s what gender affirming care is. (The doctors don’t arbitrarily give people bottles of HRT to use willy nilly.)
Puberty blockers are safe and reversible and we have lots of data to back that up.
I’m asking you whether you think teenage boys who may have issues with gynecomastia should be able to have them removed, or would it be somehow morally wrong? Should we make those boys go through their teenage years suffering from something they know they don’t like, so that they can decide about it when they’re “old enough to be sure”?
I have not attacked you once. I said “get off your high horse”. I don’t think that’s too inflammatory, tbh.
I made those edits immediately after posting my argument. Before responding to you. Sorry. I thought you read the whole argument.
The “argument” which wasn’t there when I replied to it? And how… exactly? If you post a comment, and then start editing it, during the time you are editing it, people can click “reply” and start replying to the unedited comment. Which is why generally you should not go back and add paragraphs of stuff after you posted a comment.
You’ve edited it several times and no-one can know which edits you did when.
You pretended like I was calling you fat when I pointed out that most gender affirming care is for cis males with gynecomastia (which usually — but not necessarily always — correlates with obesity), despite me not having any idea of your sex or size.
I made those edits immediately. But even so at no point in my original argument did I talk about surgeries. You immediately went into moobs and fat boys.
Also, you didn’t know my sex after saying when I was younger I wanted bigger muscles, a foot of height, and a massive dick? Then you really either have read anything of just dotn care to comprehend.
Wow thanks for just straight up calling me fat.
And I’m the bad person.
But like, it doesn’t matter where you draw the line in gender affirming care definitions, but by the definition were going on based on this thread it includes hormone blockers.
How on Earth did I call you fat by pointing out that cis-males with obesity issues are far more common than trans people?
Guess you’ve some confidence to work on buddy, as talking about you didn’t even cross my mind. I pointed out a fact about gender-affirming care. Honestly, I assume that people are more or less closer to my age on Lemmy, so I genuinely didn’t consider that you might be actually a minor looking to get themselves some gender affirming care.
Yeah, puberty blockers are probably considered gender affirming care, but them not being included is just me being pedantic about the name. I guess “care which affirms your position of not being sure about your gender identity yet until you’re old enough to make one”.
Do you even read what your typing? or do you just get off on being a dick?
Excuse me?
You’re saying gender affirming care shouldn’t exist for minors despite not knowing the facts then when the facts are pointed out, you start screaming about me calling you fat.
Get off your high horse.
How is you supporting right wing policies being less of a dick than me pointing out your support of right wing policies, which might be because you don’t understand all the facts, not because you actually support the right, which is why I pointed out the facts which you took personal offense at?
Well you’re the one who went off on a rant on something I didn’t even bring. I was talking about hormone blockers and you went off onto surgeries. Then when I brought up how I also would have liked some gender affirming care when younger you said well there’s less trans people than fat boys. I never brought up weight, it’s another thing you brought up.
I just, you’re attacking me for trying to express my opinion. I’m open for civil discussion but you’ve been on the offense. If you have any points for anything I actually brought up that would be cool
Are you actively having a stroke? You were pretty politely informed and corrected and nowhere in the above responses were you attacked in anything but the most mild and tame interpretation of the word.
You mean after you got angry at me, you edited your earlier comment to justify getting angry at me for quoting stats, as if I had actually made a personal slight when you hadn’t mentioned your age, gender, sex or health before my first reply.
“I was talking about hormone blockers”
You said “but actual gender affirming care should be left to when you can have a drink over it”.
So that sentence would include gender affirming care for cis males (which you hadn’t even identified as when I wrote those replies), and the gender affirming care they receive is getting moobs removed.
You wrote like 70% more text to your original comment. Making a wild strawman about how you should have been allowed to use as much testosterone as you wanted to, because you pretend that’s what gender affirming care is. (The doctors don’t arbitrarily give people bottles of HRT to use willy nilly.)
Puberty blockers are safe and reversible and we have lots of data to back that up.
I’m asking you whether you think teenage boys who may have issues with gynecomastia should be able to have them removed, or would it be somehow morally wrong? Should we make those boys go through their teenage years suffering from something they know they don’t like, so that they can decide about it when they’re “old enough to be sure”?
I have not attacked you once. I said “get off your high horse”. I don’t think that’s too inflammatory, tbh.
I made those edits immediately after posting my argument. Before responding to you. Sorry. I thought you read the whole argument.
So then when I go to immediately read about how my previous body issues are invalid cause there’s more fat boys then trans people kinda hurt.
The “argument” which wasn’t there when I replied to it? And how… exactly? If you post a comment, and then start editing it, during the time you are editing it, people can click “reply” and start replying to the unedited comment. Which is why generally you should not go back and add paragraphs of stuff after you posted a comment.
You’ve edited it several times and no-one can know which edits you did when.
You pretended like I was calling you fat when I pointed out that most gender affirming care is for cis males with gynecomastia (which usually — but not necessarily always — correlates with obesity), despite me not having any idea of your sex or size.
I made those edits immediately. But even so at no point in my original argument did I talk about surgeries. You immediately went into moobs and fat boys.
Also, you didn’t know my sex after saying when I was younger I wanted bigger muscles, a foot of height, and a massive dick? Then you really either have read anything of just dotn care to comprehend.