If I choose to drive on anything except the freeway, I get told the road is closed, drive it anyway (the road is, after all, not closed) and spend the entire journey with a mapless screen. Great 4G+ reception the whole way. Happens all over NSW. Weird.

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    Isn’t that a standard feature of Crapple CarPlay?

    Edit: oh no, I’ve upset the fanboys, praise be to expensive inferior technology!

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      No, not for years. Except that it seems to be decaying over the last few months.

      Not shown is the same argument I was having with Google Maps. Both insisted the road either wasn’t there, or was closed, which hasn’t been the case for the last forty years that I have used it.

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        This might be a very rare case if you’ve had the issue with different providers.

        I 4x4 a lot, in regional NSW, and find that my pre-loaded Google maps show almost every single trail we’re on vs my friends with Apple or factory maps.

        Either way, my comment was just tongue in cheek, do you remember the stories of Apple Map directing people into the ocean? 🤣

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          Yeah, I had all the maps, and the connection, I wasn’t lost, just the GPS was lost. I don’t 4X4, I’m just rural.

          Yeah, there was a website called “TomTom is trying to kill me” many years ago, no idea if it still exists but I guess I should go look it up!

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        I’m on Android Auto, I live in regional NSW, I travel a lot and I regularly 4x4 in zero reception areas.

        I’ve never had this issue, Google lets you know you’re going into bad/shitty reception areas and asks you if you want to pre-load maps. Only needs GPS when mobile data is zero.

        I always find my Google Maps to be better than my fellow 4x4ers CarPlay maps.

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          Google lets you know you’re going into bad/shitty reception areas and asks you if you want to pre-load maps

          Apple Maps pre-loads maps every time you get directions, and the latest version also encourages you to pre-load large areas (sydney is about half a gigabyte) even if you have perfect reception. It’s a free service that doesn’t monetise user data or have any ads, so Apple doesn’t really want iPhones hitting their servers continuously.

          If you’ve pre-loaded your map, it downloads new data when you charge your phone overnight on wifi and only reaches out to the cloud for traffic data (and even then, it still has “typical” traffic based on time of day/day of the week as part of the offline map).

          I always find my Google Maps to be better than my fellow 4x4ers CarPlay maps.

          Sure, Apple Maps doesn’t do off road mapping at all. But CarPlay works with any (good) third party mapping app, including Google Maps and various dedicated off road mapping apps https://www.coffstrails.com/review-of-navigation-apps-for-4wd-adventures/

          Your mates just don’t know how to use their phone is all.

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        I’ve found apple maps to be consistently shit, usually very outdated, and just not get much right ever anytime somebody I’ve been with has insisted on using it. Maybe if you exclusively live in a well populated city and never go to the countryside, it could be okay, but as soon as you go even slightly out of the major metro areas it starts to breakdown

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          Different people will have different experiences in different locations.

          In some locations Apple Maps is better, sometimes Google Maps is better, sometimes you have to resort to using Factory GPS (which is always terrible) and sometimes (Shock! Horror!) you have to navigate using road signs, your eyes and local knowledge.

          That said, sometimes I wonder if an OSM navigation system would be much better. At least both Google and Apple allow you to provide feedback when something is wrong with their maps.

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            In newcastle I have generally found Google Maps innaccurate at best, adding massive legs to short trips at worst. Apple maps hasn’t sent me on doglegs yet in Newie.

            Rurally, they’re both bad, but useable. But over the last year they have both got a lot worse.

            I miss my NSW UBD paper book, frankly.