Yes, your final statement is basically my point. I think we agree.
The rest of the world wants the UN to exist and to live up to its ideals. The US is and always has been corrupting, sidestepping, abusing, whatever other words people want, the procedures and has basically used the UN only as a laundering mechanism to “legalize” wars and genocides. It has no intention of letting the UN be actually used to democratically vote to force an end to what Israel (as the current example) is doing. That’s why I said it would be dissolved because it’s going to come to a point where it’s the entire world minus US and its close allies demanding that the US not have that permanent seat and veto power. Since obviously the US won’t willingly give into such a demand (because dipshits are in charge) it’s gonna force either the other members to back down and accept continued US dominance or more likely I think they just recreate a new UN without those types of positions. The US will of course cry and claim “wow they left! Not us!” And then proceed to ignore anything the new body says. If this happens, and how does it not??? unless the US randomly sees the writing on the wall of absolute destruction vs a step down in power which is nearly 0% chance of happening, it’s obviously gonna be very… not good for the world. In the short term anyway. Long term it’s absolutely necessary that an actually equal UN type body exist otherwise it’s always going to devolve into what is happening now.
I also think we agree completely on this. Just to be clear: i was not stating what I think should happen but rather what i believe that China and other important states outside of the imperial core (because it’s their opinion on this that matters, not mine) think about the UN and what should happen to it. And from what i have seen and heard from them it seems that they very much believe in the UN, and that they want it to be empowered and reformed to be a more equitable and less dysfunctional institution.
As to how this will be achieved given what you explained perfectly about what an obstacle that the imperial core represents to any sort of democratic reform of the UN, that remains to be seen. It all depends on how much US global power can be weakened and if multipolarity advances to such a point that the US itself has no choice but to give in to the mounting pressure from the rest of the world. I don’t think that China will want to resort to such drastic moves as establishing a new UN. China believes that time is on its side and they’re probably right.
Now if it was up to me i’d just wash my hands of the UN and revive the Comintern…
Yeah I understood what you were saying, don’t worry. Perhaps I should share in the Chinese government’s optimism. Unfortunately these past three weeks have eroded any sort of optimism I might have had brewing for the west in coming decades.
Yes, your final statement is basically my point. I think we agree.
The rest of the world wants the UN to exist and to live up to its ideals. The US is and always has been corrupting, sidestepping, abusing, whatever other words people want, the procedures and has basically used the UN only as a laundering mechanism to “legalize” wars and genocides. It has no intention of letting the UN be actually used to democratically vote to force an end to what Israel (as the current example) is doing. That’s why I said it would be dissolved because it’s going to come to a point where it’s the entire world minus US and its close allies demanding that the US not have that permanent seat and veto power. Since obviously the US won’t willingly give into such a demand (because dipshits are in charge) it’s gonna force either the other members to back down and accept continued US dominance or more likely I think they just recreate a new UN without those types of positions. The US will of course cry and claim “wow they left! Not us!” And then proceed to ignore anything the new body says. If this happens, and how does it not??? unless the US randomly sees the writing on the wall of absolute destruction vs a step down in power which is nearly 0% chance of happening, it’s obviously gonna be very… not good for the world. In the short term anyway. Long term it’s absolutely necessary that an actually equal UN type body exist otherwise it’s always going to devolve into what is happening now.
I also think we agree completely on this. Just to be clear: i was not stating what I think should happen but rather what i believe that China and other important states outside of the imperial core (because it’s their opinion on this that matters, not mine) think about the UN and what should happen to it. And from what i have seen and heard from them it seems that they very much believe in the UN, and that they want it to be empowered and reformed to be a more equitable and less dysfunctional institution.
As to how this will be achieved given what you explained perfectly about what an obstacle that the imperial core represents to any sort of democratic reform of the UN, that remains to be seen. It all depends on how much US global power can be weakened and if multipolarity advances to such a point that the US itself has no choice but to give in to the mounting pressure from the rest of the world. I don’t think that China will want to resort to such drastic moves as establishing a new UN. China believes that time is on its side and they’re probably right.
Now if it was up to me i’d just wash my hands of the UN and revive the Comintern…
Yeah I understood what you were saying, don’t worry. Perhaps I should share in the Chinese government’s optimism. Unfortunately these past three weeks have eroded any sort of optimism I might have had brewing for the west in coming decades.