Former President Donald Trump’s supporters say they hold him as a source of true information over their family, friends, and religious leaders, according to a new CBS News/YouGov poll out on Sunday.

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    Oh, we know that Trump and Fascism have a strong grasp on certain people; that is why we have been alerting everyone since 2015. We know the history and the extreme dangers to the planet that someone like Trump is. We won’t rest until the threat is removed.

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      You can’t remove the threat without understanding it. Simply calling his supporters “idiots” don’t do it. And that has been done countless times in this thread already. Yeah it feels good to make fun of them and call them names, but without understanding their motives and their history and what led them to be MAGAts, someone new will simply come along and take his place when he finally keels over and drops dead. The WHY is the single most important thing in this situation and far too many of times when I bring up the fact that these folks feel marginalized, I get downvoted and simpletons just scream out “no, it’s because they are RaCiSt”.

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        We will take care of them once Trump is removed from the election. These types will expose themselves, and thousands will break the law to express their anger their fascist leader won’t be President. The best way to eliminate the right is to put up barriers, and they will show themselves and destroy themselves simultaneously. The job of actual American citizens is to shame them and prevent them from being part of civilized society because of their actions. We MUST make examples out of them, or we will continue down this cycle repeatedly.

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          All you are doing with that strategy is radicalizing them even further. If they break the law, then by all means throw the book at them - the current punishments that J6 people are getting is pathetic. These people should have been tried for treason.

          But if it some random Joe 6-Pack who likes Trump but hasn’t hurt a fly and had no part in J6, then your method only makes things worse, quite frankly. You are proving to these people that the gob’ment IS after them. Their delusion has now become a reality.

          You need a stick and carrot approach. The stick is harsh punishments when they do something bad, but the carrot is to entice them to enter normal society and leaving all that craziness behind. Minimizing their problems and struggles only makes thinks worse. This whole idiotic idea of “white privilege” which is the left loooooves to go on and on about is part of the problem.

          And let’s be clear here. Even when Trump is gone, these people will be looking for their next Dear Leader. Luckily no one on the horizon had the pull that Trump has had. No one in decades has had his pull. And we might not get another “Trump” like person for years to come.

          But none of this stuff addresses the underlying reasons why these folks fall for this stuff. part of it is seeing their future has reduced economic advancement compared to prior generations. Many - but not all - of these people are probably just barely getting by. They might even see their kids have it potentitally worse. No upward mobility makes people do crazy things.

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            They will all end up in prison and we move on. This is what has to happen to finally get past the American Civil War. We have to show that the United States has no place for them, force them to leave the nation. That is how we move forward.

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              Dude, there were about 170M people registered to vote in the US.

              We are talking about 20% of 170M people.

              That’s 34M people.

              Our current prison population is already considered way too high compared to other industrialized nations and its at “only” 1.2M people.

              You’re not understanding the enormity of the problem.

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                No, we fully understand the numbers. Most of those 34 Million are 65 plus so removing them from the civilized population won’t damage the economy outside of maybe Florida. As for arrest, you only need to lock up about 2% for the rest to shut up and color.

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                  They already consider Democrats to be nazis (for whatever idiotic reason that they have come up with)… and how does simply rounding up people simply because they voted a certain way not exactly what fascists would do? If the majority of those people weren’t radicalized, then doing what you just said absolutely would. Again, if they break the law (such as J6) then by all means throw the book at them, but being a complete douchebag doesn’t automatically mean you’ve committed a crime.