Someone is selling something I want. I either can’t, or don’t want to, pay for it, so I just take it. What’s the morality there?
Not sure why you need this spelled out. There are varying degrees of “wrong.” They’re still all on one side of the spectrum.
I support piracy the same way I support shoplifting of certain goods - it’s a social subsidy for poor people because we as a society don’t guarantee enough spending power.
Well that and the generally ethical piracy of archival/illegal distribution to overcome laws.
No you’re getting confused. You cannot purchase a service. You can pay for a service, but once you quit paying the service goes away. If you purchase, say, a DVD. It is yours. You own it. The company cannot come and take it from you. They cannot dictate how you use it.
This is a nonsensical argument man. People generally purchase services with contracts. It is most assuredly a purchase. No amount of wordplay is going to make you right. This isn’t a schoolyard, and clever interpretations don’t mean anything in the real world
Also any DVD you purchased, ever, most assuredly has rules on what you can do with it. Copyright does not cease to exist because you bought a disk.
I’m not exactly against piracy but I don’t see it as morally good. If anything I see it in the same way Gabe Newell sees piracy. It’s not a good or bad force but rather a sort of force of human nature that comes about when companies can’t make a decent service. The only way to kill piracy is by making a user experience that is better than constantly searching for torrents. You need a decent platform that people are willing to pay for. Enshitification is basically a summoning circle for pirates. Sirusly covering your platform with scam ads is just gonna make demand for ad blockers. Not selling old games at all is just gonna make demand for emulators. Charging $50 dollars for a text book is just gonna make demand for a PDF scans. It’s crap like that that makes me consider piracy good and a necessity today.
I have 0 problem with piracy but this sub claiming is as a morally superior thing to do really bugs me.
Explain morality as it pertains to piracy.
Someone is selling something I want. I either can’t, or don’t want to, pay for it, so I just take it. What’s the morality there?
Not sure why you need this spelled out. There are varying degrees of “wrong.” They’re still all on one side of the spectrum.
I support piracy the same way I support shoplifting of certain goods - it’s a social subsidy for poor people because we as a society don’t guarantee enough spending power.
Well that and the generally ethical piracy of archival/illegal distribution to overcome laws.
What is Netflix selling?
Access to content. Same as Steam.
Can you own access? It isn’t tangible.
You can buy a lot of things that aren’t tangible. The entire service industry is built on that concept.
No you’re getting confused. You cannot purchase a service. You can pay for a service, but once you quit paying the service goes away. If you purchase, say, a DVD. It is yours. You own it. The company cannot come and take it from you. They cannot dictate how you use it.
This is a nonsensical argument man. People generally purchase services with contracts. It is most assuredly a purchase. No amount of wordplay is going to make you right. This isn’t a schoolyard, and clever interpretations don’t mean anything in the real world
Also any DVD you purchased, ever, most assuredly has rules on what you can do with it. Copyright does not cease to exist because you bought a disk.
I’m not exactly against piracy but I don’t see it as morally good. If anything I see it in the same way Gabe Newell sees piracy. It’s not a good or bad force but rather a sort of force of human nature that comes about when companies can’t make a decent service. The only way to kill piracy is by making a user experience that is better than constantly searching for torrents. You need a decent platform that people are willing to pay for. Enshitification is basically a summoning circle for pirates. Sirusly covering your platform with scam ads is just gonna make demand for ad blockers. Not selling old games at all is just gonna make demand for emulators. Charging $50 dollars for a text book is just gonna make demand for a PDF scans. It’s crap like that that makes me consider piracy good and a necessity today.
Don’t really disagree with this at all. My only complaint is when the “It’s totally moral and good and right” justifications come along