I’m currently on Win11 but I’m getting that familiar Linux itch and want to dual boot a while again. I tend to gravitate towards Ubuntu simply because it’s so big and well supported by most things.

I’ve run Arch in the past but I’ve gotten too old and lazy for that if I’d be completely honest. I have played with manjaro and endeavour though… and opensuse tumbleweed, rolling is kind of nice.

Not sure what I’d try out first this time so I figured I’d get some inspiration from you guys!

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    All of my workstations are now running Fedora Silverblue. Steam is installed via flatpak, and GPU is a Radeon 6800 XT. I also have a Steam Link for couch co-op. All is well on the gaming front!

    Debian Sid and Arch have run equally well with this setup. Your choice of distro matters much less now compared to a few years ago, especially if you favour a flatpak workflow.

    Edit: typos!

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    I would take a look at pop_os. It’s Ubuntu, but without Snap and a closer to mainline kernel version. They have a lot of great usability tweaks too.

    I run Arch BTW. I just like to make things difficult :)

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      I installed Kubuntu… I couldn’t be assed to resize my efi partition to a gig and disrupt windows… Done that in the past with varying results. Wish they didn’t require it to be that big tbh.

      I do miss Arch… wouldn’t surprise me if I’ll install it again soon.

      Kubuntu works. But where’s the fun in that? :)

      It’s like… I installed it, messed with lutris a bit (needed a newer version) and installed Diablo 4, everything works… and now I feel like I’m missing out somehow. :)

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        You’re missing out on chasing the dragon for the latest and greatest. :)

        Arch is fine once you get it setup, but I feel like the nerd in us can never just leave it be. I’ll probably go back to pop_os next major release they have.

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    A little background for context. I’m gamer and professional software developer. I’ve been dual booting windows 11 and pop os for awhile. Windows for games and pop os for everything else… Over the weekend I switched to NixOS. This came with a learning curve which I spent a day or so learning. I’ve been getting the hang of it now and I love it so much. I definitely recommend it. I managed to get steam working without much fiddling and my emulators. It’s been great! The benefits for programming are obvious. Allowing me to basically stop using docker dev containers.

    I completely removed windows from my computer and I’m very happy.

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      We used to run Ubuntu at my last job, it was so nice! I’m back in Windows land now though…

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        Yeah my job recently started letting developers choose between windows and Mac now which is a step in the right direction… their excuse is that all their security software doesn’t run in Linux… Ill accept using a Mac over WSL though, that was a huge pain

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          I’m still happy WSL exists, it’s definitely better than nothing if you’re stuck in Windows land!

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            Yeah absolutely! I know I dissed it, but I was happy to have it when I was stuck on windows for work.

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    I tend to gravitate towards Ubuntu simply because it’s so big and well supported by most things. I’ve run Arch in the past but I’ve gotten too old and lazy for that if I’d be completely honest. I have played with manjaro and endeavour though… and opensuse tumbleweed, rolling is kind of nice.

    Are you me? Did you also use BlackArch for a while, and still use Rainmeter? :P

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      Ubuntu does make things easier.

      I had everything set up the way I wanted it in Ubuntu the other day… but something still itched a bit so now I’m on Tumbleweed and feeling better. :D

      Though Diablo 4 tends to crash after playing it for a while… not sure if I’d have the same issue in Ubuntu or not, might have to triple boot for a bit just to try it out. I really do want to stay here in chameleon land though so it would probably be better to just try to find the cause of the crashing.

      I do think this is a pretty common thing among us linux geeks though, never really feeling content and just wanting to try everything. :)

      Never did try BlackArch or Rainmeter though!

      I’ve played around with plenty of distros though… Slackware, Redhat, Gentoo, Arch, *buntu, SuSE (before they split into openSUSE), openSUSE, Manjaro, Endeavour OS and probably a bunch more that I can’t even remember but those are probably the ones I’ve played around with the most.

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    I’m currently on Pop! OS 22.04 LTS. For me it worked out of the box. That installer with the NVidia drivers already included was a dream, so I didn’t have to set up anything special. I did end up preferring the KDE desktop over Gnome, so I just went screw it and installed KDE plasma on top of it. It’s been my daily driver like this for years.

    Though, honesty requires me to mention that over the 4-ish years I’ve been using it they pushed a kernel update twice which killed the nvidia drivers, causing you to be unable to boot to the desktop. Solution was as simple as just rebooting into the previous kernel for a while and waiting for an update which fixes it, but still…

    Other than that, pretty happy with it and I’m unlikely to change anytime soon.

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      I tried PopOS but had several issues immediately, including the display flickering despite updating my Nvidia driver. Other than that it just felt like a somewhat worse Ubuntu to me, so I quickly went back to Ubuntu

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        One thing that bugged me last time I wanted to try out Pop was that my Efi partition was considered too small. It was 500mb, you’d think that’d be enough?

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    Here’s my config (no hardware):

    • OS: Arch
    • Kernel: linux-zen
    • Window Manager: i3-gaps
    • Compositor: picom

    I’ve been running this for several years now across multiple PCs, all with different hardware, including Nvidia and AMD for graphics, and Intel and AMD for CPU - and it’s been working really well for me right up until recently.

    After this paragraph, I will talk about the issues I’ve exeprienced as a gamer using my particular config. Please note that it’s just a couple of minor issues, and the rest of the experience has been more than wonderful, convenient, functional, and beloved, and I do recommed Arch as a gaming setup as someone who’s been running it to play games for several years in a row.

    The most recent Steam Next Fest (June 2023) has revealed several demos that behaved like they launched, i.e. Steam changed my status to “in-game”, changed the Start button in library, updated the playtime properly, etc., yet the game did not, in fact launch at all. I managed to play the affected demos when I switched to the KDE Plasma desktop environment on the same PC… and back on the same config after that as well.

    I would consider that a one-time error that was gone by, essentially, reloading the X server, but there’s been another consistent issue that I have only managed to observe in this i3+picom config. Ever since Steam’s most recent UI beta, the floating elements, such as the buttons that let you install the game’s demo, wishlist it, or navigate the store by the tags applied to the same game, all of which appear when you’re hovering your mouse pointer over the game’s thumbnail in Steam, are basically ignored; when clicking any of them, the click registers on the element that is supposed to be underneath the element you’re actually trying to click: for example, if you’re hovering your mouse pointer over a game and want to click the green wide “Install Demo” button, which is floating over another game’s thumbnail, you’ll click that thumbnail instead and open its Steam page. This particular issue persists between full PC reboots, X server restarts, i3/picom restarts, etc., and never occured in XFCE or KDE Plasma.

    As I haven’t been using any of the store features in Steam prior to the June’s Steam Next Fest, I failed to notice any of the above, but now, I can’t deny that it’s been annoying. I really like my current configuration for everything I’m doing at my PCs: it’s great for my work, it’s even great for my gaming, it’s great for my leasure, and I don’t want to ditch it, because I have already tried many other tiling window managers, and i3-gaps is the one that stuck with me the most.

    Now, I know there’s sway, which is supposed to be a drop-in alternative, i.e. I can use my i3 config with it no problem, but sway uses the Wayland compositor, so I can’t run it as easily: I’ll have to set up the SDDM display manager instead of the dead-simple lightdm in order to keep the convenient multi-user setup I have, and probably sacrifice some of the performance my GTX 1080 has been giving with the proprietary drivers (I know, disgusting, but it has worked the best for my hardware as compared to the nouveau, unfortunately). I guess it’s just time for me to tinker again.

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      You know… at least for me, I think I’m past the stage of being horrified over having to use proprietary drivers. I know it’s not as nice as a pure open source system, but still… it gets my system to run better, it’s free and it’s still Linux. So in my opinion it’s a good tradeoff still.

      I do get why purists would hate it though and I wish you’d get the same performance with a completely free system.

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        As far as I know, it’s not entirely about some purism ideal they have in mind - the difference between the two nvidia camps on Linux is the functionality you gain with both drivers, and the proprietary driver is simply more restrictive, so, yeah, I agree that they have a point.

        This is the reason I know very well that my next GPU is going to be an AMD one (given that their hardware has proper open source source by that time, that is). I bought by GPU back in 2017 or 2018, I think, a couple of years before using Linux and even considering it - had I known that today’s me was going to run LInux, I would’ve gone for an AMD GPU right away.

        Even skipping the Nvidia driver debates, the AMD hardware has been a much more consistent and pleasant experience for me on Linux overall across several AMD-based laptops that I have installed Linux on. While I did manage to get things going on my desktop that has an Nvidia GPU, it definitely caused me more headache than I expected.

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          Good points all around. I suppose AMD would be a better choice when the time comes to upgrade. There’s no real down sides to them either compared to Nvidia except maybe not supporting the same ray traving tech?

          I’m a bit out of the loop there though.

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    NixOS. If you played around with Arch you’ll be fine. My only gripe (although it’s kind of important) is NVIDIA doesn’t work. Call me lazy but I haven’t felt like switching to an other distro, plus I’m not much of a hardcore gamer.

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      Nvidia drivers works just fine. Well, as “fine” as they work on any other distro.

      Only thing you need to do is add "nvidia" to services.xserver.videoDrivers. You might also need to accept unfree packages but you’ll need to do that anyways for Steam.

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        Yeah, that’d be a no for me.

        Especially problematic since I’m on a laptop so I can’t really switch out the GPU either.

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        Unfortunately it’s pretty much impossible to support Nvidia on Linux unless you have a large enough team to test each of their GPUs individually and find workarounds for all of the bugs. Their Linux drivers are really bad.

        The bigger projects have been able do that, but if it’s a relatively new project with only a handful of people working on it, and it’s not used on the steam deck, there’s basically no chance it’ll support Nvidia.

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    I’ve been on Manjaro for 3 years, honestly love it, it’s treated me great for gaming and given me so little to have to fix that my wife has also been running it for 2 years.

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    I’ve been evaluating NixOS to make sure I can run games on it. I’ve only tried a machine with Intel graphics so far, but I see that AMD and Nvidia drivers are packaged. It seems convenient now that I’ve figured out the setup.

    Vulkan is set up out of the box.

    It’s necessary to enable 32-bit DRI support by adding this line to /etc/nix/configuration.nix:

    hardware.opengl.driSupport32Bit = true;
    

    To use Lutris install the package and use its UI to install runners. I didn’t have to configure any extra libraries to get Battle.net running. You can configure the “system wine” that Lutris sees, and extra libraries your games might need like this:

    home.packages = with pkgs; [
      (lutris.override {
        extraLibraries =  pkgs: [
          # List library dependencies here
        ];
        extraPkgs = pkgs: [
          wine-staging
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      })
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    Those lines go in a Home Manager config file, like ~/.config/home-manager/home.nix. That installs Lutris, and any listed dependencies at the same time.

    NixOS does not put dependencies in the file paths where programs usually look for them. That traditional directory structure is called the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, or FHS. But Nix packages can create a virtual FHS where needed, and that is what the Lutris package does. That lets software that isn’t built for Nix work, like Lutris’ Wine runners. That means that for games to access libraries those libraries must be listed in that extraLibraries option so that they are included in the FHS.

    32-bit libraries are in pkgs.pkgsi686Linux.* if you need them.

    I haven’t tried Steam yet, but I think it has an option similar to the extraLibraries one for Lutris.

    A nice feature of NixOS is that if you add a bunch of libraries to your config trying to get a game to work, those libraries are automatically unlinked when you remove them from your config so your system stays nice and tidy.

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      I’ve been having a great time with games on NixOS. Steam just works when you enable it. I believe you can specify extra libraries for the filesystem hierarchy hackery, but I haven’t needed to yet. One thing you should know about (if you don’t already) is steam-run which is a simple command line tool that automatically wraps things in a normal FHS. Super convenient for the occasional binary :).

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        Good to know, thanks! Do you find steam-run to be helpful even for non-steam binaries that need an FHS? Or do you use it mainly for games?

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          Yeah, exactly! For steam itself on NixOS you don’t have to manually use steam-run, but steam-run is a handy little tool to wrap / run other commands with the FHS that NixOS sets up for steam. I’ve mostly used it to run a few Linux games that I have binaries for, but don’t have on steam… I’m pretty sure I used it for another Linux program too, but I can’t remember what right now.

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      Which packages do you add to extraLibraries? How do you find the dependencies? I’m struggling with this at the moment.

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        It depends on what your games need. I haven’t added any libraries yet, but I haven’t tested many games yet either. If something isn’t working you might be able to determine a missing library from the log output. In Lutris the Play button has an arrow on it that you can click on to find the “Show log output” button.

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      32-bit libraries are in pkgs.pkgsi686Linux.* if you need them.

      Put the libraries into extraLibraries; it’ll add them for both µarches. No need to explicitly use pkgsi686Linux yourself.

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    Arch Linux at the moment, though I distro hop quite a bit!

    When it comes to gaming, I can’t really say I’ve found a distro that “felt” better for gaming, and I’ve been on a fair amount of them - Fedora (and Nobara), Arch, NixOS, Endeavour, pop!_OS - I haven’t noticed a difference. I didn’t measure benchmarks because at the end of the day its about what I can perceive, not what I can read from a spreadsheet.

    Realistically I think the only difference I ever noticed was with pop there’s a Nvidia ISO that has the drivers already included in the live environment, so I get to skip a step post-install.

    I find myself just using Flatpaks for gaming stuff (Steam, Bottles, Heroic, etc) these days since I know that I can take those on just about any distro. I’ve heard that there is some FPS loss from running games through Flatpak, but again I haven’t done any benchmarks so I can’t confirm nor deny this.

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      These days Ubuntu can install the nvidia drivers for you during the install as well if you just click the “install proprietary blabla” so you get a pretty game ready system there as well tbh so I’m starting to feel like a more gaming tweaked version of Ubuntu is a bit redundant?

      That’s a surprisingly pleasing font by the way!

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        Grr Lemmy just ate my comment, I guess I have a chance to refine my response a bit now!

        Ah, thank you - it’s been a while since I used Ubuntu on my main system (Ubuntu was my foray into Linux back in the Hardy Heron days!) but now that you mention it, I do remember seeing that option when I briefly had Ubuntu installed on my old MacBook (which I then moved to Fedora to play around with before using it on my main PC). Having that option was quite nice for the broadcom wireless drivers that those Macs need for WiFi.

        That’s a surprisingly pleasing font by the way!

        Thanks! I came across it a couple of years ago, and I joked about it at first but it grew on me over time so I purchased (it is a paid font but there is a very similar one called Comic Mono) the font and have been using it in my IDEs and terminals since then! I wouldn’t use it everywhere of course, but for a monospace environment its really good and I can’t quite put my finger on the “why”.

        Funnily enough, I’ve tried to use Comic Code on both Windows and macOS as well and there is something about the FreeType system on Linux that makes the font really excel for me. On Windows the font feels too “thin” and on macOS the font feels too “thick”. 10 years ago if you had tried to tell me that I’d enjoy the way fonts look on Linux better than the other two major platforms I would’ve fell to the floor laughing for a few minutes - I imagine its due to a combination of improvements over FreeType and displays over the years, along with me actually branching out and not just sticking with the default font that happens to be picked for me by whatever I’m using 😅

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          I stumbled upon Comic Mono myself a while ago and have been meaning to set it up in my IDE’s but haven’t gotten around to it yet. Might just have to though. It looks strangely easy on the eyes. Almoat relaxing somehow? Cant really putn my finger on why however.

          I can agree with the fact that fonts feel different depending on your OS. I usually use Source Code Pro and I never got the feeling that it looked quite as good when I went from Linux to Windows after getting a new job.

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    Im really surprised that I don’t see zorin os on these types of threads. Its main stick is to be chock full of out of the box software especially around windows compatibility. wine and play on linux are ready right away and I can run most windows programs right after install.

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        yes. years now. I keep on trying something else but I don’t have much patience now and take the easy way out.

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          It’s pretty nice that linux has gotten far enough that we can have that luxury these days. :)

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    gentoo!

    i love the versatility it offers, but it’s very much so DIY. it has great documentation. anyone who considers themselves a “linux enthusiast” should try an install in a VM at some point or another, if nothing else it’s a great learning experience.

    for gaming in particular: flatpak steam / lutris / bottles. it’s great because it’s completely distro agnostic. i can take the $USER/.var directory and put it on any distro with flatpak installed and it’ll just work.

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      I am starting to realize how handy flatpaks can be!

      I’ve been distro hopping like a madman these last couple of days and it’s gotten so much easier to get going with my games now!