It’s excruciatingly obnoxious to have to rely on third party sources for what should be a first-party feature.

Like, I select all and then search a query. “Oh no, nobody on your server used a third party service to find it, so you won’t see it here.”

Like, how short-sighted is that, really? If I search for a string in the ‘all’ servers, I should have a list of ‘all’ the servers containing that string.

It’s a really simple concept. Not sure why this post even has to be made, but I’m wondering if there’s something I can do to make these ‘features’ more intuitive.

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    What does ‘All’ mean to you?

    In this context it means all posts which are stored on the server you are on. And only things are stored which people subscribed to. It does not mean “‘all’ servers”.

    There are good reasons why the protocol has been designed like that, if you’re interested then you can find out about it. If not, reddit still exists for people who like it more.

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      All means all. If it isn’t actually All (it isn’t) then it should be called something else.

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        But it is all, just not the all you think, it’s all things the server is aware of, not all things in the universe.

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          This is not obvious to anyone who doesn’t have some understanding of how networking and federation work, which is most people. Especially if we’re talking about users who have only ever experienced centralized platforms.

          It should be called “Known Network” or something more transparent that doesn’t require an explanation of indexing

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              It’s an understandable response. They were previously in a position where this was such an obvious concept that it didn’t merit any thought, and now they are required to have an understanding of networking and federation in order to understand how well actually this a fundamental part of how distributed systems work and isn’t technically a bug.

              From their perspective this seems like a fairly straightforward problem. Obviously (to us) it’s not, but the threshold for the fediverse shouldn’t be that you deeply understand federation if there’s ever going to be meaningful adoption.

              As an aside, your personal domain is timing out.

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                Damn, thanks, I have a bad implementation of getting Twitter avatars and now that Twitter redirects everything which is not logged in my implementation goes into redirect hell every time someone opens a page with a Twitter comment. Perhaps I’ll find the time tonight to look for a fix.

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                  It seems I was able to fix it by adding curl.max_redirects = 3 to my caching code. No idea why it would hang without it because it gets the image from Twitter just fine now too.

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          Uh… no it’s not.

          I’m sorry, but what you’re doing is actively making this service harder to use by suggesting that ‘all’ should only mean ‘the communities other community members have subscribed to that contain that string.’

          Where do the community members even find the the ones to subscribe to? Oh, they use a third-party service or ‘just know’ because… whatever reason.

          Gee, fediverse design strikes again. Sorry, it has to be said. It really does.

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      ‘All’ to me means “”“all”“” the servers my instance can connect to that contain that string.

      It’s a very simple concept.

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        It’s just not very simple, quite the contrary, you would need to have a server park like reddit has it to store everuthing on every instance, the databases would be so big that you would need specialosts running just the database servers.

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          Oh yes, it really is.

          The implementation may not be easy, but the concept is very simple.