A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister’s children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

“They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store,” Gualtieri said.

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    Oh, there’s no doubt about that, but it’s what we have to live with.

    Jefferson advocated for throwing everything out and starting over every 19 years, that would have been interesting.

    https://oll.libertyfund.org/quote/thomas-jefferson-on-whether-the-american-constitution-is-binding-on-those-who-were-not-born-at-the-time-it-was-signed-and-agreed-to-1789

    “Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force and not of right.”

    So, two years before the Bill of Rights. If Jefferson had his way, the 2nd Amendment (and everything else) would have expired in 1810 and would have had to be renewed then and another 11 times since then.

    But Jefferson didn’t get his way and here we are!

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      Very true. Sorry you got downvoted for getting to your real point, but I’m in agreement, that when those that wrote the constitution came up with it, and subsequently additions were added the bill of rights, and what was those who fought for the next amendments, it was the most progressive thing at the time. But as our world has changed, so should our values and therefore our constitution, and every modification and addition. Empires come and go when they think they are infallible, the US is no different, and we should be willing to throw out what some consider “holy texts” when it makes sense to build a better nation.

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        We actually are really close to a constitutional convention. It takes 34 states to call for it and so far, 28 are on board.

        Unfortunately, they’re all red states.

        https://www.commoncause.org/our-work/constitution-courts-and-democracy-issues/article-v-convention/

        So if we throw out the Constitution, these red states will be the ones to write a new one.

        The 2nd Amendment will look positively progressive compared with what they’ll come up with, along with likely disenfranchising women, minorities, and any other group they dislike.

        The only saving grace is that while 34 states can call for a convention, it takes 38 states to ratify a new convention.

        Trump only ever won 25 states, so they would need 13 Biden states to ratify a new convention and that doesn’t seem likely.

        Which brings us back to the 2nd Amendment not going anywhere…

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          Yikes. Well I should signify that I want a more progressive constitution that helps women, minorities, and the disenfranchised, not a fascism base to build upon. But yeah, I see what you mean it’s either “throw out the government now in favor of fascism” or “keep the current constitution, but deal with the 2nd ammendment”

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            That’s the reality of it, and unfortunately the people who keep downvoting will never read down this far. :)

            Other folks will though, eventually! Hello future people! Hope you’ve done better!