I never said anyone else had to listen to me. I said, originally, that I wouldn’t drive a Chinese company.
And I want to be very clear here. I don’t hate China. I greatly distrust the Chinese government, and the culture of bribary, lying, cheating and scamming that has gone along with it.
I also do not hate it because it’s popular to do so online. I have this view because of direct, personal, experience with Chinese companies and the government there.
Simply put, Chinese companies have and will make important stuff out of sub-par materials to make a buck, and lie, cheat and bribe their way to market. And then people die. This is not paranoia, this is something that happens all the time there.
Companies in China regularly cut corners. I don’t think they are actively trying to kill me, I never said that. I said I don’t trust that they are made as they say they are. I don’t trust that the vehicle I buy is the same as the one that was tested by encap, or was sent to the regulators to ensure it complied.
This is not because I’m racist, or hate Chinese people, or anything. This is from experience, but personal and historical, about the culture of corner cutting, cheating, lying and bribery, that is normalized in China.
To be very clear, I have lived and worked in China. I am not just talking out of my ass.
You mean the people who work in those companies right?
Well yes, I suppose it is the workers and management who are cutting corners. What’s your point?
But if they are cutting corners they are actively trying to kill you.
No, they are trying to save a buck. They might not care about the consequences, or they might think it will all be fine, or something else. They aren’t sitting around, rubbing their hands with glee and laughing about how many kiwis they will kill.
So what you are saying is that they people who built this car were actively trying to kill anybody who drove the car.
Again, no.
Let me give you an example. There was a scandal in 2008 where a company manufacturing baby formula was adding chemicals so that lab tests would show it had higher protein count. The chemical led to kidney damage in infants, with over 50,000 being hospitalized.
Do I think that company was trying to kill kids? No. They were trying to make more money, damn the consequences.
That’s fine if you’re happy to drive one, I don’t really care. Personally I won’t.
They can say they meet regulations all they won’t, but the number of times corners are cut in China to make a few extra bucks makes me look elsewhere.
This is all not to mention not wanting to support the CCP in any way, and the CCP has fingers in all the large companies in China.
You do you boo. It seems like the rest of the country doesn’t agree with you too much.
But hey you hate China and I guess that’s one badge you can wear with honor.
I never said anyone else had to listen to me. I said, originally, that I wouldn’t drive a Chinese company.
And I want to be very clear here. I don’t hate China. I greatly distrust the Chinese government, and the culture of bribary, lying, cheating and scamming that has gone along with it. I also do not hate it because it’s popular to do so online. I have this view because of direct, personal, experience with Chinese companies and the government there.
Simply put, Chinese companies have and will make important stuff out of sub-par materials to make a buck, and lie, cheat and bribe their way to market. And then people die. This is not paranoia, this is something that happens all the time there.
So you don’t hate china but you hate the chinese government and everybody in china who works for any company that makes any product.
That’s not at all what I said.
It’s exactly what you said. Who do you think is making sure the chinese cars are going to kill you when you get in them if not the workers?
Sigh.
Companies in China regularly cut corners. I don’t think they are actively trying to kill me, I never said that. I said I don’t trust that they are made as they say they are. I don’t trust that the vehicle I buy is the same as the one that was tested by encap, or was sent to the regulators to ensure it complied.
This is not because I’m racist, or hate Chinese people, or anything. This is from experience, but personal and historical, about the culture of corner cutting, cheating, lying and bribery, that is normalized in China.
To be very clear, I have lived and worked in China. I am not just talking out of my ass.
You mean the people who work in those companies right?
But if they are cutting corners they are actively trying to kill you.
So what you are saying is that they people who built this car were actively trying to kill anybody who drove the car.
Well yes, I suppose it is the workers and management who are cutting corners. What’s your point?
No, they are trying to save a buck. They might not care about the consequences, or they might think it will all be fine, or something else. They aren’t sitting around, rubbing their hands with glee and laughing about how many kiwis they will kill.
Again, no.
Let me give you an example. There was a scandal in 2008 where a company manufacturing baby formula was adding chemicals so that lab tests would show it had higher protein count. The chemical led to kidney damage in infants, with over 50,000 being hospitalized.
Do I think that company was trying to kill kids? No. They were trying to make more money, damn the consequences.