• go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I don’t think anyone was arguing you can push Biden to the left. I guess you had that Bernie commission but nothing was promised beyond that. What happened is more people voted for Biden so he won. That’s democracy.

    Ok and I’m not voting for him again. That’s democracy.

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      9 months ago

      I said several times you’re allowed to help Donald Trump win if you want to, millions of Republicans are doing it too.

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        9 months ago

        That’s a two way street. By refusing to compromise with leftists moderates are allowing Trump to win.

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          9 months ago

          It isn’t because the only question to be asked is whether a choice is helping Biden beat Trump, or not.

          Biden is trying to be as electable as possible, to get himself elected over Donald Trump. If he doesn’t go Leftist enough on your preferred policy, it’s because he thinks being that far left will lose him votes. So “refusing to compromise with leftists” is the choice that helps beat Trump. And voting for Biden is the choice that helps beat Trump. One can be the consequence of the other, but that doesn’t change the fact that not voting for Biden is helping Trump.

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            9 months ago

            It isn’t because the only question to be asked is whether a choice is helping Biden beat Trump, or not.

            That’s your interpretation. You’re free to have your own and I’m free to have mine. Buddy, the only reason you’re continuing to engage is because you believe you can affect the outcome. You can’t.

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          By refusing to compromise with leftists moderates are allowing Trump to win.

          No, the party is allowing Trump to win, by not putting up candidates that people can vote for.

          It’s ultimately the party’s responsibility.