• bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net
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    9 months ago

    So, what do you guys want then? Long term, he stops selling to Israel, what next?

    Qatar and Iran decide now that Israel has been cut off from the US, they decide to come calling on their promises to destroy Israel.

    Do you support Israel then? Do you support Biden selling weapons again?

    Does Hamas go back to attacking Israel? What exactly are your long term goals here?

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      9 months ago

      Israel can easily take care of themselves without the US being an accessory to Netanyahu’s genocide.

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          9 months ago

          I’m not sure why you’re bothering to ask, since you’re going to ignore whatever I say and make up some wild shit as my position instead. Again.

          I favor a two state solution in which both Israel and Palestine are recognized by the UN.

          Now that you have asked your leading question, you’re going to pretend that the only way to get to a two state solution is to continue US support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

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            9 months ago

            I am not a Netanyahu supporter. I in fact support another dissolution of the current coalition government on day one of the end of the war. I am open to him and his cabinet being investigated and tried, just as I think should have happened to Bush and Cheney.

            But at the end of the day Hamas started a war and took hostages into the city of Gaza so that Gaza itself would be the battle scenes.

            They refuse to hand over the hostages, nor take the fighting outside the city. Qatar and Egypt’s support of the war is stipulated on fighting not extending into their borders.

            I also support a two state solution, but it requires the full dismantling of the Hamas government, tribunals, a temporary government administered by a neutral third party (good luck talking the Swiss into getting involved here), etc.

            This situation is bad, but claims that the US is engaging in genocide are patently false and might as well be official Qatari/Yemen/Iranian propaganda, it has that large a lack of depth of understanding the geopolitical situation actually happening.

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              9 months ago

              The US is not engaging in genocide.

              Biden has made us accessory to it, though.

              And you’re here to drum up support for it.

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                9 months ago

                Pretending that people who disagree with you are pro-genocide is so inflammatory that it leads me to believe good faith discussion was never on the table for you.

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                  9 months ago

                  How many times did I have to repeat exactly how Biden was supporting Netanyahu’s genocide?

                  How many times did you completely ignore it and pretend I hadn’t said anything?

                  How many times did you LIE and pretend that Biden was bound by treaty to sell weapons to Netanyahu and prop him up at the UN?

                  Don’t you dare lecture me about bad faith.