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      These aren’t rare in the sense that everybody has one they keep as a collectible. If I went down to 7/11 and tried to buy something with it they’d give me a funny look.

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        no they wouldnt. its money. i work at a gas station we get these all the time

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          I have a friend who works at a bank, and when he was a teller there was a guy who would come in every friday and exchange 500 in dollar coins of varying types, the little brass colored ones here, the silver looking ones, and also 50 cent pieces.

          They didn’t carry that much at any time because nobody really brings them in so they had to start special ordering them for this one guy. Every week.

          No idea what he uses them for, but either he’s got a shitload of them, or he makes it hail at strip clubs.

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            No idea what he uses them for,

            Let’s say you want to buy a computer. You could, like a boring person, go to Best Buy and purchase a computer for 800 bucks on a credit card. Or you could dress up like a pirate with 800 gold doubloons in a sack, and slam that shit on the counter during checkout.

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              At today’s gold prices, 800 US dollars is just one single small gold coin. A classic 1 oz Krugerrand coin is currently worth more than 2,000 US dollars.

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                He was referring to using the sack of dollar coins as if they were gold doubloons, not actual gold coins.

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            Likely owns a vending machine business. They’re easier to return than a handful of quarters if someone uses a 5 dollar bill to buy something for a buck and change.

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              I’d put money on it being one of those “Twice the Ice” vending machines, all of my dollar coins come from either that or the ticket thing at the train station.

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            My guess is that he runs something that needs to give automated change. Vending machines, car washes, arcades, etc… Basically, if someone puts a $20 into the car wash but only wants a $10 wash, it’s easy to just dispense ten $1 coins as change.

            Coin handlers are mechanically very easy. Coins don’t vary in size and shape, so it’s easy to automatically detect which coins have been inserted, dispense change, and reject coins that don’t match. Paper money sorters are much more complicated, and more prone to failure.

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            50 cent coins contained silver for a few years longer than dimes and quarters. So you have a slightly better chance of finding a silver coin worth a few dollars in a roll of halves. It’s free gambling for numismatists.

            Source: I ask for the occasional roll of halves.

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              My grandfather used to do this with nickels, dimes, quarters, and dollar pieces. When he passed I got the “random coins” that were literally all years prior to the change in materials.

              No idea how much it’s all worth but it’s in the back of a closet somewhere.

              I guess this didn’t occur to me because the guy also got the regular brass ones, which don’t have any value above face value to my knowledge. They didn’t contain actual gold at any point.

              I would have thought people would have collected/sold the silver ones out of circulation by now.

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          fwiw I’ve personally had cashiers refuse to accept them since they didn’t think they were real. not sure how common that is tho, especially now

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        The vending machine at my job gives change in dollar coins, and the Ohio turnpike does the same. They are fairly common, just people dont like to handle change is all.

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          I recall in NYC for a while, dollar coins were known as metrocard change from when they first started installing the Metrocard Vending Machines.

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      Thank you; I didn’t know that. You do have a rather big country and I still sort of wonder if it is universally recognized. Again, just going by never having seen them in movies. Maybe United Statesians aren’t just fictional characters in movies. We’ll never know.

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        yeah we still mostly use dollar bills but we do have dollar coins and have had dollar coins in circulation for a long while predating these versions even.

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          It’s so cool to me. I wonder if I am the only one not from US who finds this a bit mind blowing. What other secrets are you keeping?

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            We also have a two dollar bill that is rarely seen. So rare in fact that I’ve read stories of cashiers calling the cops on someone because they don’t even realize it’s legal tender.

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              In Portland Oregon (most strip clubs per capita in the country) it is traditional to use $2 bills instead of singles. It is extremely common to see two dollar bills in Oregon, I would bet a majority of two’s in circulation stay in the PNW.

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              Here in Cambodia we have a dual currency system: you can pay in dollars or riel and get your change in a mixture of currencies.

              The $2 note is seen in businesses, especially money changing ones (from dollar to riel or vice versa), on display as a good luck sign.

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          No offense intended. I have been to a lot of countries in the Americas and the US (despite being rather big) is not really a place I go to. So when I specify like that, it is from my own experience (and—you know—actual geography and stuff) and I am a little bit sorry to have apparently offended.

          Edit: that sounded sarcastic because it was a bit, but really, I didn’t intend to offend. Sorry, let’s be friends.

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            Strong agree. For some reason theres a lot of weird US Americans want to claim the word America for their country only. Its silly, ignorant, and rude.

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                Its not about Nationalism. Its about geography.

                When you say somethin like “America had had more than one mass shooting on average last year”, you annoy most Americans, who dont have these problems that are specific to the US.

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                  Most people are able to infer—by context—that someone saying “America” means US if the topic is the US. They are—to some extent—colloquially interchange, given context. I just didn’t say it myself because it isn’t normal nor natural here. Again, sorry to everyone hung up on my phrasing because it’s a non-issue as far as I’m concerned. Call yourselves and think of yourselves as whatever you want. You have my blessing and approval.

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              Because it’s been used that way in English to refer to people living in a specific region (now the US) since the 17th century. Now non-native English speakers are trying to force a change and (rather hilariously) have started taking offense to it. Really must be a blessed life if that’s something worth bitching about.

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                  And none of that has anything to do with the origin of the term “Americans” and its usage in the 17th century to refer to British colonists located in what is now the eastern US.

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                In English, not in general. The continent is called America in lots of languages, but the country is most often referred to as the USA. Because that’s the title the country has chosen for itself.

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                  Yes, we agree that:

                  • The continent is called America
                  • The country is called the USA

                  What I’m stating is that:

                  • The adjective for a USA citizen is “American”
                  • It is not USAsian or whatever got said above
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              My friend, I am open to suggestions. “American” with like 100-ish countries in it doesn’t really narrow it down for me. Peace and love and all that stuff.

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                Mate, there is literally only one country with America in it’s name.

                Furthermore in a 2 continent Americas model, there is no other peoples American could refer to because the people from the continents are either North American or South American.

                Shit if anything, United Statesians could refer to the United Mexican States. So you’re making it confusing when it wasn’t before.

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                  My friend, I used words with no intention to offend nor dive into pedantry. I am sorry you find it worth going on about. “America”. There, take it. Please have a good rest of your day, friend.

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    So that’s where they all went. I haven’t seen those in circulation since I bought stamps from a vending machine.

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    These are legal U.S. tender, minted in the U.S. Not common in the U.S. but still valid.

    Pay attention to your other coins though. Ecuador does mint its own coins that match the American ones identically (1, 5, 10, 25 and 50 centavos) and also has some older 1 sucre coins that match these 1 dollar coins. Those would not be legal tender in the U.S., I’m pretty sure.

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    Ecuadorians are very touchy about the condition of their paper bills. I tried to pay for a Panama hat with some cash that included a slightly torn but fully in tact $10, and the shop owner refused. As such, more durable dollar coins, which were minted by the US but never really caught on, are quite popular.

    Interestingly they do mint their own coins, with Ecuadorian half dollar, quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian_centavo_coins

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      I like the Sacagawea and “Innovation” dollar coins. The problem with 'em, though, is people horde and collect them so they’re not as available as the regular paper bills even though they are currently still in production. They come across so rarely, I also tend to think “oooh I should hold onto this!” Whenever I get one back as change.

      The only downside to using them I’ve run into is having to show the clerk it’s a dollar and not a quarter.

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        Wait, can’t yall just… go to the bank? I walked into a local bank a year or so ago and asked if I could exchange for them, they asked how many and just exchanged them like anything else.

        I’m sure if I wanted thousands that would be a problem, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t have at least a handful.

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        The tooth fairy put one of these under my kid’s pillow tonight. The thought is that he’s going to enjoy it more because it’s rare. It will end up in his piggy bank, out of circulation for who knows how long.

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    We should’ve discontinued the dollar bill so that these coins would get used in the US, too.

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      I disagree. I hate carrying any coins, while dollars of any denomination fit nicely in my wallet.

      I have a hunch that if we were to swap to these instead of paper dollars for $1, prices would go up simply because retailers would you d everything up to the nearest $5 increment.

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        Canadian here, between electronic payments and coins being more durable than paper or polymer money, retailers don’t have any incentive to charge a less competitive price.

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        Isn’t the wallet thing kinda backwards though? Like, it’s not as if we all had wallets perfectly sized to carry this kind of paper money before the paper dollar was introduced.

        I figure that if coins had been the predominant form of currency for at least the past century, we’d have a great way to carry coins other than a pouch, and paper money would be inconvenient.

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        That didn’t happen in Australia when we replaced our $1 note with a $1 coin.

        But these days, it’s a non issue, because as a country, we basically don’t use cash at all

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      I lived in Ecuador for a bit and it’s pretty terrible when you pay for a $5 item with a twenty dollar bill and the cashier hands you back fifteen of these coins, which has happened to me on multiple occasions.

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      This has been studied. The US uses a higher quality paper that lasts an average of 7 years. So it is actually cheaper than minting coins. In other countries that switched to coins, singles only lasted a year or two.

      There is nothing stopping people from using coins now. People just don’t like them.

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        They’re also heavy in your pocket and don’t fit in a standard cashier’s drawer. There aren’t enough slots.

        The real good idea would be getting rid of pennies and nickels. Those are only useful for giving stores a few extra cents in profit. They set prices at $4.99 instead of $5 so you buy more. Without pennies, they’d have to set the price at $4.90 and lose 9 cents.

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          Yeah, the US once has a half penny. Adjusted for inflation, it is worth more than a nickel is today when it was eliminated.

          But I don’t think that will give us a 9 cent discount.

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    Similar with Montenegro, they dont have official currency but they use euro as de facto currency

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    I don’t live in the US. I have only ever seen the dollar bills in movies. Maybe these coins are actually normal to y’all but I found it fascinating.

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    There’s a few countries that use US currency as the premium currency. Its very bizarre to be halfway around the world and see US dollars, but its a strong and reliable currency in countries where the local currency is too volitile to use.

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      Yeah, like Cambodia. The ATMs near my hotel spat out dollars, but deep in the city it was local currency. Everyone accepted dollars but they did charge a bit higher if you were a dollar spender if you calculated the local currency conversion on that. From my country it was easier to get dollars too before I flew out, vs Riels which were harder to find and had a pretty bad exchange rate.

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    I have a lot of those “gold” dollar coins. For a long time after they came out, I’d ask the cashiers at stores and banks to trade me paper dollars for whatever gold coins they had available. Many times I had to dig into my stash to get by, so it’s not like I’m sitting on a massive horde of them or anything, but I have about a hundred of them.

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    A bit like the Channel Islands - they use British Pounds but if you try to use them on the mainland they’ll not be accepted. Other way round is fine.

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      Would these be accepted in the US? Like maybe a gas station attendant would think these are fake but also maybe a bank would take them? Never going to have a chance to test that out; just curious-ish.

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        I’ve accepted these back when I used to tend bar, I always appreciated the dollar coins. I also had a dude who’d only pay in $2 bills.

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            Don’t feel like an ass about it, it’s rare you’ll get one of these excepting out of an expensive soda machine or snack machine anymore, even if a cashier has these in the register they’d be grabbing the singles out of normalcy.

            Plus given how little cash is used anymore they’re just uncommon. Like the $2 bill, they’re legal tender in circulation but you don’t see them everyday and some folks will go their whole life without seeing them.

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              I am really appreciating how kind people are here. This really isn’t Reddit. I haven’t just been told I am wrong; I have been given anecdotal stories. So I was wrong, and I learned, and this is fun.

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      They will be, but businesses will often have to check their book of accepted notes. We had to do it with Scottish and Irish ones which were unfamiliar to us in Northamptonshire.