I like the idea of this picture, but I think that the problem is that many people level criticisms to communism as a religious-like school of thought, and I think this fuels that narrative, that we are dogmatic and preaching it to others, I don’t think that is a good way even for us to see ourselves, as preachers of the truth, we are people who ought to be among the proletariat and offer support so we all collectively rise together, and is only engaged with the people among the people that we cant put our thesis to the test, and improve Marxism, we do not preach we act.
Sure I get it but jokes mean stuff and can shape some ways of thinking specially to newer members people still learning, so I like to be on the cautionary side and leave my two cents here.
It doesnt even have to be a joke and we can lean into it completely seriously without having to justify ourselves. I disagree with the premsises comrade bear puts forward. Pasolini managed to straddle this line perfectly well as a communist.
Jesus was a revolutionary, remember; he freed his people from slavery. He didnt implement communism afterwards, of course; but we can see him for the progressive he actually was removed from the mythos of him. Thats Pasolini’s point, and I think its a good one to internalize as it allows us to communicate on better ground with less radical religous people.
I like the idea of this picture, but I think that the problem is that many people level criticisms to communism as a religious-like school of thought, and I think this fuels that narrative, that we are dogmatic and preaching it to others, I don’t think that is a good way even for us to see ourselves, as preachers of the truth, we are people who ought to be among the proletariat and offer support so we all collectively rise together, and is only engaged with the people among the people that we cant put our thesis to the test, and improve Marxism, we do not preach we act.
This image is only a joke. It is an inside joke among communists.
Sure I get it but jokes mean stuff and can shape some ways of thinking specially to newer members people still learning, so I like to be on the cautionary side and leave my two cents here.
I love lemmygrad because we have the stupid memes seasoned with straight unfun reasoning.
Just to acknowledge the fun, not removing it, but also highlighting the possible issues.
My point precisely, I didn’t dislike the intent of the picture, it is fun but I like to temper it with reasonable criticism, all about contradictions
It doesnt even have to be a joke and we can lean into it completely seriously without having to justify ourselves. I disagree with the premsises comrade bear puts forward. Pasolini managed to straddle this line perfectly well as a communist.
Jesus was a revolutionary, remember; he freed his people from slavery. He didnt implement communism afterwards, of course; but we can see him for the progressive he actually was removed from the mythos of him. Thats Pasolini’s point, and I think its a good one to internalize as it allows us to communicate on better ground with less radical religous people.
Eh just lean into it, then. Fascists and liberals will lie about us and delude themselves no matter what. People crave cults, let’s give them one.