The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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    I agree that a lot of people had to see trump as president before they knew he was a bad president.

    i just disagree with blaming people who didn’t vote for trump for trump being elected.

    hell I kinda disagree with blaming trump supporters for trumps actions. the people I know that like him are old, uneducated, rural, or deeply Christian, they don’t know how to think critically. They don’t question the news they get and they only get news from a single source that tells them they are right. they are in a cult, and in a cult the cultists are victims. the leaders are the ones to blame.

    Fox News, oan, tucker Carlson, Donal trump are the people to blame for trumps presidency, Jan 6th and project 2025 not the people who voted for him, and certainly not the people who didn’t vote for him.

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      It has nothing to do with being uneducated. Kindness doesn’t require a college degree. Trump has always been a bully, and he ran on being a bully. Someone was ok with that is ok to be blamed imo. I put some blame not all.

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        That’s the tricky part of a cult, you get convinced to do things you wouldn’t normally do. The trump supporters I know raised their kids to be better, but were just vulnerable enough to be convinced that Trump would bully the bullies and protect the weak, which was a complete lie.

        I empathize and hope for them to have the strength to let go of their brain washing and work to fix what has been broken.

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          That’s fine if they admit they were wrong and voted against him in 2020, great. If not, it’s not my responsibility to reprogram them. They are adults and are responsible for their own actions. If they want to change I welcome it. If you acknowledge the blame and correct it, we’re good.

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            I get not wanting to put yourself out there to try and help, and it’s really hard not to just be a dick to people you disagree with.

            but if the question is how do we stop fascism the answer isn’t blame them or make them feel guilty about it, it’s reaching out and helping them out of it. they are people and people are stupid stubborn afraid and in need of support from other people.

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                It usually doesn’t work the first time, ya gotta keep at it. as stone temple pilots say, take time with a wounded hand.

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                  You’ll be in line at whatever the modern day gas chambers are with rhetoric like that. They literally tried overthrowing the government.

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                    What would you do, to prevent them from gassing me? Put them in their own concentration camps?

                    I would criminally charge and jail the leaders, trump Roger stone and the heratage foundation, deprogram the followers, just like with any cult. They think they are saving america, just like anyone who says vote D no matter what.