• madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    Liberals will disappoint you.

    Conservatives will arrest, surpress and kill you.

    Clearly both are equally bad!!

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      So those college students peacefully protesting aren’t being arrested and suppressed while a Democrat is the president in states ran by democrats?

      Found the Biden dick riding neo lib

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        They used to be, but the current Republican party explicitly rejects liberalism. They don’t follow any liberal ideas, even on capitalism and free markets. They’re willing to bend any principle for power. They’re fascists.

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            “Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.” How the fuck does that describe the GOP?? I mean yeah I get the argument relative to economics, but on the civil rights side of things no.

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                    Oh I completely agree with you, I’m a more libertarian kind of socialist myself so I definitely don’t think liberalism is the answer. I also think that’s is disingenuous, and really discrediting to leftists as a whole, when people try to say that the GOP is liberal. They’re definitely not; on almost any social issue they are firmly opposed to the liberal position on civil rights, freedom of association, etc etc.

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          Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, [consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

          Wikipedia agrees with me

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            It’s a United States thing. They use the term liberal to refer to social liberalism whereas you’re referring to neoliberalism.

            Edit: On second glance, your Wikipedia link is to straight liberalism, which includes things the Republican party doesn’t support, like secularism. So who knows.

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              which includes things the Republican party doesn’t support, like secularism.

              Yeah, saw that, too. They are still liberals (as in: support neoliberal policies), but with christo-fascist tendencies. The article states that these points are contended right dow, though.

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        Relative to much of the world yes.

        In terms of economics and neoliberalism mostly.

        You’re more right than wrong.

        In terms of social liberalism, the differences between the two parties are more noticeable.

        This is because structural politics is defined by undemocratic means, interests, and forces.

        So we vote on more superficial aspects, such as the culture war and social rights.

        Which can be important, but most of the time aren’t the real meat of the world’s problems.