• bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    so, none of that stuff happened during the first trump presidency but itll happen this time so there’s no point in voting outside the two party fascist duopoly until some hypothetical new electoral system is put in place (how? by voting it in? which of the two parties will welcome this significant change that completely restructures their hold on power?).

    that’s a wild outlook.

    at what point does even our electoral action on the most individual, atomized level need to aim for what we actually want instead of some deeply flawed and amoral compromise with one of the parties of fascists?

    surely there must be a red line that both parties could cross that would make you abandon the dire calculus of strategic harm reduction and instead use your meager but meaningful vote to bring about the future you want, right?

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      2 months ago

      Nope! As I’ve said before, voting is not an ethical choice in a single-vote system. That’s because it’s not the solution. Its the first step.

      The real work starts afterwards with local government and getting involved in your community. I already told you how Maine is changing the way voting works there, and everyone can focus on changing their own states laws to continue the work.

      Neither of the parties is going to want it, which is why it won’t just be on a nationwide ballot. We have to do it ourselves.

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        2 months ago

        so there’s nothing the two parties could both be doing that would make you say “damn, i should not support either of these groups in any way”?

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          2 months ago

          No.

          Not voting appears the exact same way as saying “Hey, both parties are equally good, and I’m fine with either!”

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            2 months ago

            At no point have I ever suggested anyone not vote.

            So you’re saying there’s nothing the two parties could do to lose your support and cause you to vote third party?