• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    ” The type of democracy where you have to support the abhorrent to keep out the truly monstrous and if you say you won’t, a bunch of self important liberals will pretend it’s all your fault and not the parade of geriatric ghouls the party has been nominating

    Yes, isn’t it terrible when democracy doesn’t agree with you? The only TRULY democratic society is one where those pesky proles listen to those who know what’s good for them, right?

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      It’s terrible when democracy doesn’t agree with damn near anybody

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        Yes, only a paltry plurality. If only there were a way that the option that even less people agree with could win.

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      Democracy doesn’t work particularly well when the voters are uneducated or otherwise missinformed. That when the country starts doing things that are against its and its own citizens interest. Corruption, legal or otherwise, also contribute to making it disfunctional.

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        Democracy doesn’t work particularly well when the voters are uneducated or otherwise missinformed

        This argument is the justification for the Electoral College.

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        Democracy doesn’t work particularly well when the voters are uneducated or otherwise missinformed.

        So we’re just coming out against democracy now when the proles aren’t on our side, are we? Great. Glad to see this brave new form of leftism.

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      Lol what?

      The only TRULY democratic society is one where those pesky proles listen to those who know what’s good for them, right?

      Isn’t this literally the message of the meme?

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        Isn’t this literally the message of the meme?

        No, and I don’t really know how you could come to that conclusion, since the meme doesn’t say anything about whether any given act or ideal is ‘true democracy’.

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          “If leftists don’t vote for Biden they are stupid”

          5 minutes later…

          “Wow why do you think I’m telling the proles how to vote?”

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            “If leftists don’t vote for Biden they are stupid”

            Yeah, if you allow fascism in order to stop a non-fascist government, you’re a fascist enabler.

            “Wow why do you think I’m telling the proles how to vote?”

            I didn’t realize pointing out consequences of losing a democratic election, and advocating voting for a candidate in that democratic election order to avoid those consequences, was anti-democratic. Thank you for teaching me this, O Great Leftist.

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                As a citizen, it’s my duty to speak out against what I feel are bad choices for the polity. I didn’t realize advocacy of voting for (or against) a specific candidate or issue through speech was so anti-democratic. I’m learning a lot from you today.

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                  You’re really leaning into this idea that I’m saying you’re being anti democratic. I thought I was clear but here goes:

                  Having no choice but to vote for a genocide because of a two party system where both send bombs to Israel is not exactly democracy at it’s best.

                  Brow beating leftists who take issue with this is “telling the proles how to vote.”

                  These are two points. I hope that clears things up

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                    Having no choice but to vote for a genocide because of a two party system where both send bombs to Israel is not exactly democracy at it’s best.

                    Sure it is. A majority of both parties, and independents, have spent the past several months consistently approving of the current level of support of Israel, or else advocating for more support of Israel’s genocide.)

                    That’s democracy, at its best. Representing the will of the majority.

                    Just because the will of the majority is repugnant doesn’t make it not democracy, or “democracy” (implying that it is, in some way, not true democracy).

                    Brow beating leftists who take issue with this is “telling the proles how to vote.”

                    I’m sorry that you feel people other than you having opinions is so hurtful. I think it’s best to end this conversation here, to minimize the hurt I do to you.