President Joe Biden condemned by the move by the International Criminal Court to seek arrest warrants against Israeli leaders, saying that there was “no equivalence” between that country’s actions and those of Hamas. Earlier today, the ICC issued a legal report in which a panel of international law experts supported a prosecutor’s conclusion that there […]
“They were valid military targets. Hamas is in the hospitals. Hamas is in the tunnels. Hamas is in Tel Aviv.”
“Just a little genocide is worth it to save democracy. Look, I made a funny trolley problem meme to prove it.”
“There is no genocide.”
Where have I heard that first line before? Oh right, back in the early 2000s when Al-Qaeda was everywhere, anywhere because they’re terrorists. Just a different brand!
I’m very confused, Hamas were in and under the hospital weren’t they?
Edit: why are people downvoting this? Please someone explain
Because that’s still not a reason to start bombing hospitals en masse. Those hospitals were still largely serving the civillian population. Even if some soldiers were in there or part of the hospital was used for military operations, then go in there with some ground troops or something.
Bombing hospitals, schools, and refugee camps is never OK.
Why would you build your military headquarters under a civilian hospital? That clearly shows total disregard for innocent civilians right?
I’m finding it hard to understand. People seem to be upset because Israel don’t care about innocent Palestinians. Yet Hamas the people who Israel are targeting very clearly don’t care about innocent Palestinians either?
Every modern city has a tunnel system. There is no evidence other than IDF assertions that HAMAS was operating command centers from the hospitals.
It seems incredibly stupid in the face of international pressure for Israel to actively target a hospital unless it truly believed Hamas was hiding there. What possible benefit would it do Israel to simply target a civilian hospital?
Yes it was incredibly stupid. But nobody important really looked into these claims in previous conflicts. So Israel thought they were going to get the same treatment this time. All it was ever going to take was actual investigative journalism to blow this rotten can of worms open. And satellite imagery showing entire neighborhoods being leveled makes for a great motivator to investigate.
Edit to add - the benefit, to further the genocide. Hospitals both treat injuries and count the dead. Two things a genocidal power does not want happening.
Just stop. Unless looking like an asshat is your goal. In that case just fucking stop.
We don’t owe you anything
Looking at the publicly available evidence Israel destroyed entire hospitals for 12 armed guys in most cases. Basically the hospital security guards. TV News was extremely irresponsible with this reporting and they mostly just repeated whatever the IDF said. But investigative journalists have been debunking IDF claims for months now.
No. But even if they were, it’s still unconscionable to kill hospital staff and patients. You can argue that some people should distance themselves from Hamas or bear the risk. I think that’s mostly victim blaming, but at least you could argue that, and perhaps some surprising discussion could occur… Except here we’re talking about people who are sick or injured. They really couldn’t go anywhere.