• yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Shoe production has a non-zero carbon footprint, especially with the vast majority of shoes being a “single use” product (i.e. not resoleable) and with a very limited amount of miles

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      1 year ago

      Not all shoes are so limited, you can buy shoes that have plenty of lifespan such as Brooks running shoes. I’ve put hundreds of miles on mine and they’re still in good shape. That being said with planned obsolescence and cheap manufacturing for fast turnover being prioritized, we end up with less reliable shoes.

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        1 year ago

        Hundreds of miles? I’ve walked/run hundreds of miles on my ~$10usd shoes and they’re still holding together. I would expect a expensive pair to manage thousands or ten-thousands of miles.

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          You have also probably done irreparable damage to your feet, ankles and knees with those $10 shoes that will become apparent as you age.

          Dont.Buy.Cheap.Shoes.

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            1 year ago

            Idk man, some people wear high heels. $10 shoes can’t be worse than that.

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        That’s why I wrote “the vast majority”??

        And hundreds of miles, before you throw away a pair of shoes, my… Look, that might mean much to a Northern American who drives everywhere.

        “Hundreds of miles” is what I actually run each year, and then I get lots of hiking and just walking around on top of that. I guess I can measure my Redwings and Hanwag in tens of thousands kilometers each, and my Lundhags I could pass down if I had kids.

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          I’m not sure I was disagreeing with you in the previous statement. I haven’t thrown my shoes I’ve only put hundreds of miles on yet.

          My point is that it isn’t exactly easy to find good shoes unless you invest a lot of money into them, especially in North America since we’re specifying locales. Most stores, even specialty stores, don’t carry custom-made or handmade shoes that are re-soleable. You could blame that on car-dependency, but it’s more likely due to an overall lack of understanding why one would need shoes that last much longer. People spend their money on cheaper, shorter-life shoes because they don’t have that much money to begin with.

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            I’m not sure I was disagreeing with you in the previous statement

            Then don’t repeat things I explicitly mentioned, as if I said something else?

            Also get better examples. Brooks break down as easy as Asics, Saucony, whatever. They are exactly the “single use” product I spoke about, making the shoe and clothing industry in general highly non carbon neutral, which was my point.

            it isn’t exactly easy to find good shoes unless you invest a lot of money into them

            Yes, it’s called the Sam Vimes “Boots” theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

            You could blame that on car-dependency

            I don’t blame that on anything but capitalism.