• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I believe in educating kids to know how to ignore distractions. The phone will be there in every work/life situation and will be a tool used to get them further in their careers and life in general. It’s stupid to let them use them openly during class… It’s also stupid to make legislation about them. Notice we don’t have country wide dress codes for schools. Just legislation that says when such codes have gone to far. Banning students from having items they carry daily is just a stupid over abuse of power being instated for what reason? Failed parenting and failed educators?

    You text during class you get told to stop, happens again you get detention/thrown out of class/sent to the dean and eventually thrown out of the school. Always was that way. No need for laws around it.

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      7 months ago

      You text during class you get told to stop, happens again you get detention/thrown out of class/sent to the dean and eventually thrown out of the school. Always was that way. No need for laws around it.

      It’s more complicated. Teachers can’t take away the phone because it’s an expensive piece of property and it opens all kinds of doors for the school being liable if it goes missing or gets broken. Not to mention if something does happen, the parents might sue the school.

      And we aren’t talking about mere distractions, but things designed to keep kids addicted to them. You’re pitting school teachers and admins trying to get kids to pay attention to something often found as boring, against billion dollar businesses pushing punping money into keeping and grabbing kid’s attention. Plus having kids miss school because of a cell phone just doesn’t make sense, especially if the parents are pushing the kid to bring it.

      The law just makes it clear and reduces liability for the school, and it’s better for kids.

      I wish the world were the way our describe it, and that would work. But it doesn’t.

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        7 months ago

        You pretty obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, almost every class my children have been in for middle school and high school had the children commit to not using their smartphone and sent home a slip to be signed by parents acknowledging that the phones will be taken away and have to be picked up by a parent if they become a distraction for the student. They include similar language in the school student handbook as well.

        This law is just ridiculous authoritative nonsense, being used to score a victory for political marketing purposes.

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          7 months ago

          Agreements and enforcement are two different things. Have you talked to any teachers about how this plays out?

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        7 months ago

        Teachers can’t shouldn’t take away the phone because it’s an expensive piece of property and … the school being is liable… Not to mention if something does happen, the parents might should sue the school. The law just makes it clear this legal and reduces liability for the school, and it’s better for as usual kids are told it’s better for them to be controlled and lack agency.

        FTFY.

        things designed to keep kids addicted to them

        You really think that’s what electronic engineers do?