• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    22 days ago

    Worst one is probably Apple. They just announced “Apple Intelligence” which is just ChatGTP whose largest shareholder is Microsoft. Figure that one out.

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      22 days ago

      Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

      So the Apple Intelligence isn’t all ChatGPT. I think this deserves to be mentioned as a lot of the processing will be on device.

      Also, I believe part of the deal is ChatGPT can save nothing and Apple are anonymising the requests too.

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        22 days ago

        Well, most of the requests are handled on device

        Doubt.

        Voice recognition, image recognition, yes. But actual questions will go to Apple servers.

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          22 days ago

          Doubt.

          Is this conjecture or can you provide some further reading, in the interest of not spreading misinformation.

          Edit: I decided to read the info from Apple.

          With Private Cloud Compute, Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI, with the ability to flex and scale computational capacity between on-device processing, and larger, server-based models that run on dedicated Apple silicon servers. When requests are routed to Private Cloud Compute, data is not stored or made accessible to Apple and is only used to fulfill the user’s requests, and independent experts can verify this privacy.

          Additionally, access to ChatGPT is integrated into Siri and systemwide Writing Tools across Apple’s platforms, allowing users to access its expertise — as well as its image- and document-understanding capabilities — without needing to jump between tools.

          Say what you will about Apple, but privacy isn’t a concern for me. Perhaps, some independent experts will verify this in time.

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            22 days ago

            Which is exactly what I said. It’s not local.

            That they are keeping the data you send private is irrelevant to the OP claim that the AI model answering questions is local.

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          22 days ago

          Brother I do not care about your doubts.

          I want hard facts here.

          Do you think that if you enter into a contract with a company like Apple they’ll just be like, aww shit they weren’t supposed to do that. Anyway let’s carry on.

          No. This would open OpenAi up to potential lawsuits.

          Even if they did save stuff. It gets anonymised by Apple before even being sent to ChatGPT servers.

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            22 days ago

            The hard fact is OpenAI is already exposing itself to lawsuits by training on copyrighted material.

            So the proof here should be “what makes them trustworthy this time?”

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              There’s kind of a difference between “we scraped the internet and decided to use copyrighted content anyways because we decided to interpret copyright law as not being applicable to the content we generate using copyrighted content” (omegalul) and “we explicitly agreed to a legally-binding contract with Apple stating we won’t do that”.

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      22 days ago

      That’s just not true. Most requests are handled on-device. If the system decides a request should go to ChatGPT, the user is promped to agree and no data is stored on OpenAI’s servers. Plus, all of this is opt-in.

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        22 days ago

        Most requests are handled on-device.

        Literally impossible.

        “Hey Siri, what’s the weather forecast for tomorrow.”

        < The Farmer’s Almanac that is in my local model says it will rain tomorrow. >

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          22 days ago

          I think there’s a larger picture at play here that is being missed.

          Getting the weather is a standard feature for years now. Nothing AI about it.

          What is “AI” is, Hey Siri, what is the weather at my daughter’s recital coming up?

          The AI processing, calculated on-device if what they claim is true, is:

          1. the determination of who your daughter is
          2. What is a recital? An event? Are there any upcoming calendar events that match this concept?
          3. Is the “daughter” associated with this event by description or invitation? Yes? OK, what’s the address?
          4. Submit zip code of recital calendar event involving the kid to the weather API, and churn out a reply that includes all this information…

          Well {Your phone contact name}, it looks like it will {remote weather response} during your {calendar event from phone} with {daughter from contacts} on {event date}.

          That is the idea between on-device and cloud processing. The phone already has your contacts and calendar and does that work offline rather than educating an online server about your family, events and location, and requests the bare minimum from the internet, in this case nothing more than if you opened the weather app yourself and put in a zip code.