Background to this slightly weird question: I found one of my old an English exams on science fiction and dystopian literature from the 11th grade in North-Rhine Westphalia, Germany (ca. 2004) and found a similar question. The idea back then was to discuss the pro- and cons of a BCI (and I objectively did not do to well back then) . I am interested about people’s opinions.

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    Assuming the implementation is done in such a way that I am not indirectly owned by the manufacturer of the BCI and am capable of maintaining its software and firmware myself…yes yes absolutely yes stick that shit in my head.

    But if it is not open source and I’m expected to be tied to some corporate entity just to utililze it, no, absolutely not.

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      Similar feelings. I’m far less worried about the tech than the corpos behind the tech. There are other concerns, like immune system going haywire, constant EM radiation, etc. But the capitalist tech bros would be my chief concern.

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    I can imagine a world in which I’d be willing to do so. But there’s no way in fuck that that world is ever going to happen.

    For sure it’d have to be as open source as it gets. With a solid user base that would maintain the device should the entity that made it end support. No dependency on a remote service that, if it was shut down, would cause problems. No DRM. No tracking. At least the option to disable all “phoning home”. No ads. Hardware off switches for any wireless connectivity interfaces. I’d have to be able to turn off basically all notifications. Decent data backup strategy options. As little vendor lockin as can possibly be achieved for such a use case. All that sort of stuff.

    The payoff for having it would have to be pretty great for me to be willing to get it if it required an invasive surgical procedure.

    And I sure as fuck wouldn’t be an early adopter. I’d definitely wait a good long while to see what issues early adopters developed.

    So, all that to say “realistically, no way in hell.” But in a magical fairly land where every product isn’t made specifically to enslave consumers… there’s a very very small chance I’d consider it.

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      This is the exact answer I was going to write, it’s an awesome technology, and sometimes I’m cooking or doing something random and thinking that if I had a neural interface with my computer I could keep doing what I was doing, or taking notes or anything which would be great… But there’s no way in hell I’m going to trust any of the companies that could produce this, and I doubt that even if one came out soon there would be a viable open source alternative any time in my lifetime.

      If anyone thinks we’re just crazy open source guys, consider that both Adobe and Microsoft just changed their terms to include owning essentially anything you do inside their platform to train AIs.

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      This. We already have cybernetic eyes, but the company went bellyup, so once the ones already installed stop working, the users are fucked. If it were open source, they’d be some effort, either corporate or community to create an update.

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      Agree. I would also insist on it being supported by a socialised health system with control over pharmaceutical pricing.

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    No way, it would be cool at first then after awhile they would start with the freaking ads and subscriptions

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    After 45 years of living I’ve learned that the future sucks and capitalism ruins everything. So no, I’ll pass on the brain ship. If I’m disabled enough to need one, I live in America and there’s plenty of gun stores.

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    The way the world is moving towards the subscription model - no way. Imagine some company having the ability to remotely disable the chip.

    If the BCI was implanted with no external communication, perhaps. Depends on how it will benefit me.

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    No, i don’t need that. It was a fun fantasy when I was younger, but unless I end up losing use of my limbs or something, cyborging it up seems like a bad move in our nonfictional world.

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    Blessed be the omnissiah! But no, in this world companies would ruin it in some way by making the T&Cs insane and loading ads into your brain or something

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    That depends on what it could do, and how granular it could be programmed.

    I don’t want any active interface, it should just be passive.

    If I had a small chip in my head that I could program to reward a healthy lifestyle but nothing else, then yes I would be interested.

    I mean something that would give me a slight dopamine hit when making healthy choises would be fantastic.

    Now, that would be impossible to make, but that is the only kind of BCI I would accept

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    There is no such thing as a secure brain-computer interface. That’s like asking if there is a safe tiger-butt interface.