• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m already voting for him. That doesn’t mean I can’t read the writing on the wall.

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      4 months ago

      I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You always debate the same way. This wasn’t a debate about your vote. It was a discussion about what caused previous elections to fail, and why we have centrist Democrat candidates. Your self-centeredness makes it impossible to maintain focus of a discussion outside of your own interest.

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        4 months ago

        I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You always debate the same way.

        As do you. When I’ve made a point you can’t argue against, you start arguing why to vote for Biden, and when I say you’re preaching to the choir, you call me selfish.

        Biden still needs to convince voters to vote for him, and it doesn’t matter that you think they should just be happy with what you’re happy with.

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          4 months ago

          Do you even remember the point of this discussion? I disagreed with another commenter on the reliability of the moderate Democratic vote, citing the sizable abstentions in the 2016 election by progressives. You blamed the candidate. We’re looking at the exact same situation this election. It’s too late for Biden to step down, and he against Trump again.

          Are you really going to blame the candidate again now that America saw the direct impact of abstention in 2016 giving Trump the win? The repercussions of this election rests completely on the shoulders of voters.

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              4 months ago

              And you seem to think voting is some personal commitment to a candidate and not the simple numbers game that politicians use to gain control.

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                4 months ago

                Centrists are so fucking exhausting. Do any of you see voters as humans instead of demographics to be marketed to and exploited?

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                  4 months ago

                  I’m not a centrist. I’m an informed progressive who leverages my vote to get the closest elector to my ideals that is available. That absolutely results in “settling” to prevent another backslide in policy from a Republican win.

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                    4 months ago

                    I’m not a centrist.

                    if you say so.

                    I’m an informed progressive who leverages my vote to get the closest elector to my ideals that is available.

                    And yet you can’t see that humans aren’t numbers.