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    Oh? Would you like me to dig up evidence there? Because I remember you quite distinctly engaging in apologia for tankies and doing genocide denial.

    You said fascists, not tankies. And what I did was say that I haven’t seen sufficient evidence regarding a claim of genocide. Needing to see evidence before I believe something is not “genocide denial.” Also, I believe I’ve been told by you and people like you that supporting genocide isn’t even a deal breaker, even when there’s plenty of evidence for it. I don’t agree with that, because I’m anti-genocide, but it’s pretty rich for you to try to get on your high horse with that.

    It’s rather impressive how many layers of “not using evidence” you’re on at this point.

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      You said fascists, not tankies

      Yes, fascists. Or would you like to tell me how ethnic cleansing, genocide, totalitarian repression, repression of worker control over industry in favor of state control of industry, and an anti-democratic hero cult of death is actually True Socialism™?

      And what I did was say that I haven’t seen sufficient evidence regarding a claim of genocide. Needing to see evidence before I believe something is not “genocide denial.”

      Oh, I’m sorry, was Bucha not enough for you? What about the mass evictions of Ukrainians, or the kidnapping of Ukrainian children? Colonization using Russian citizens? Any of this ringing a bell?

      Silly me, it’s only a genocide if it’s done by people you don’t like, like democracies. When a fascist state like Russia does it, it’s actually completely okay.

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        Yes, fascists. Or would you like to tell me how ethnic cleansing, genocide, totalitarian repression, repression of worker control over industry in favor of state control of industry, and an anti-democratic hero cult of death is actually True Socialism™?

        Much as it seems like you’re clearly interested in a good faith discussion based on facts and evidence, I’m afraid I’m gonna have to pass.

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          Much as it seems like you’re clearly interested in a good faith discussion based on facts and evidence

          Silly me, I must have imagined all of that in all the regimes tankies play apologist for. I must have also imagined the mass murder and ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians as well, since you don’t believe in that genocide either. Bucha was a false flag, right? What’s the latest talking point on the kidnapped Ukrainian children? Summer camps, is it?

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            As usual, just screaming a bunch of nonsense unrelated to anything I’ve said. I’ve fed your trolling enough for today.

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              As usual, just screaming a bunch on nonsense unrelated to anything I’ve said.

              Oh, good, so you haven’t denied the Ukrainian genocide?

              The war in Ukraine is tragic but it doesn’t fit the classification a genocide,

              This you?

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                Yeah. Now show me where I said “Bucha was a false flag.”

                Oh, you can’t, because you made it up. As you do, all the time, constantly.

                I’m not interested in this cable news-tier bullshit. Take some deep breaths and get back to me if you want to talk about things like an adult.

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                  Yeah.

                  Cool, so you do admit that you deny Ukrainian genocide.

                  Now show me where I said “Bucha was a false flag.”

                  When I asked you what your explanation for Bucha was, you avoided the topic entirely, because you know that addressing the issue puts you in the uncomfortable position of explaining why the massacre at Bucha totally had nothing to do with genocide. “Bucha was a false flag, right?” is mockery of that. Sorry it went over your head.

                  Thanks for admitting you’re a genocide supporter and a fascist. We’re done here.

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                    And there you have a perfect example of a good faith discussion, ladies and gents.