• FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        The question “would you eat dog meat?” and your outrage at the question, while a gotcha, is a very solid way to point out your inconsistency. It’s by no means dishonest because it outlines your inconsistency without false pretense. You’re being asked a direct question, and you got got.

        You don’t get a free get-out-of-jail card because you don’t like how this rhetorical device proved your position weak.

        • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          sophistry is shitty. they had no interest in a genuine discussion or learning anything: they’re just trying to show how right they are, regardless of the facts

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            The facts are there: the consumption of animal products the way it is done across the vast majority of the planet is not something you can rationalize: it’s bad for the consumers, bad for the environnement and, most of all, bad for the animals that are being slaughtered on a massive scale.

            Don’t fool yourself: I’m not talking about the act of ingesting the flesh of dead animals, which could theoretically be done in a way that doesn’t have such a strong negative impact on everyone involved. I’m talking about what’s happening in the real world, which is very far from idealized “what if” theories that are pretty unattainable, and an artificial debate construction carnivores use in debates with vegans.

            You and I consume animal products. The difference between the two of us is I find the moral objections to the consumption of dog meat to be rationally indefensible, and pretty ridiculous.

            Do consume animal products if you like. I’m not a vegan, and I would be hypocritical to judge you based on that. Whatever you do though, just don’t make the mistake of assuming your moral system is universal because it’s pretty illogical.

            In short, get off that high horse.

      • threeduck@aussie.zone
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        Hahaha just answer the question. You’re like that meme that goes “APPEAL TO AUTHORITY, STRAWMAN FALLACY” in the middle of a normal conversation. Likr, if you’re in a debate and someone pushes your argument into a corner, you can’t go “no, judged the opposing team is using gotcha arguments that make mine look foolish, I object”.

        Gotcha!

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            3 months ago

            Hey it’s only a trap if your argument falls for it. When have I lied? Stop arguing weird imagined semantics and actually reply like a human. Why do you think it’s okay to kill and consume sentient life?

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                3 months ago

                What is your defense of a meat eaters diet in western civilization in 2024.

                Hahahaha for the love of god, just actually answer a question for once.

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                    3 months ago

                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You literally can’t reply, this is honestly my favourite anti-vegan argument I’ve ever had.

                    Alright alright, I’m all done. You clearly have no ability to argue, but it was a fun journey for me finding that out. With no capacity for understanding, I’ll block you now to ensure I don’t waste any more of our time.

                    Save your health, the life of animals and the life of the planet and eat plant-based.