• Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Doesn’t this solution require downloading the file, reencoding and then it’s available to watch? How do you only need one minute to start watching?

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      Doesn’t sound to me like they actually understand what they’re talking about. Sonarr and Radarr both use trackers to download files from either torrents or usenet. Emby is a media server that displays the downloaded files (like netflix). You don’t typically have to reencode what you download.

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        I do know. I just didn’t want to list everything, as those who’d do that, know that. And there is no “tracker” for usenet. Usenet is probably older than you 😁

        Reencoding (if necessary) is done on the fly by the emvy-server.

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          There is a provider with Usenet which serves the same purpose (and costs money so there’s a trade off). Radarr and Sonarr are not finding the content for you. It’s coming from whatever service you are using.

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            Well my internet costs money too. Netflix would be 20 bucks and i have 30% of what muricans have. My usenet is 5 bucks a month, the indexers (2 atm) are like 25 a year. So i would still have money left for a nice tea 😁

            And netflix wouldn’t be enough. If i had all providers i want, it’ll be >100 moneyz a month. That’s ridiculous. And probably still missing something

            But yes. Take torrents and save even those mere bucks. I just want it comfy and fast. The principle would be the same.

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              Ok? Why are you bringing Netflix into it? No one suggested that. You can do whatever you want the point of my responses are that Sonarr/Radarr are not as simple as you implied.

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                Of course they aren’t. As netflix wouldn’t be enough too, you need internet, a device, an OS and an app. Wouldn’t mention those when talking about netflix too. So yes. Of course you’d need a downloader and probably an indexer too. And a firewall, vpn and whatever else you can think of, and a media-server, and an app, and a device and OS. Oh and a browser to input your search into. Probably a keyboard too :-)

                But *narrs are those that take your input, query indexers, do the background-work, put results into your downloader(s) of choice and into your media-server of choice. They’re the crucial part here. Like the netflix-app for watching netflix-content. Everything else is your personal flavour.

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        4 months ago

        Right but you still wait for however long the file needs to download. Normally quite a bit more than 1 minute. That’s what got me confused about this almost streaming like experience that I’m missing out on.

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          Yeah that part of their comment was also misleading. Basically they’re saying Radarr/Sonarr are better than torrents but really they’re just a fancy front end. If something downloads fast on them it will go just as fast in whatever torrent client you use.

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            Nonsense. Torrents depends on seeders. Usenet is always (depending on the provider) max-speed.

            *narrs are basically just interfaces for torrents and/or nzbs. And unless I’m into some very specific niche-stuff that requires a private tracker, why should one use torrents? Their only upside is that they’re totally free.

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              I didn’t say anything about Usenet in the comment you are replying to. The point is Radarr/Sonarr are not Usenet. They are just front ends regardless of which service you are getting content from. Whatever download speed you get on that service is what you get, they have nothing to do with it.

              I’ve had plenty of torrents download at high speed, is it less reliable than Usenet? Yes, but It’s also free. I’ll wait a day or two if I have to if it saves me money.

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                And i didn’t say they’re better than torrents, as they can do both. It’s just the easier overall wrapping than using the regular torrenting-way we did since torrents first came up. It makes me even able to actually use torrents (if i wanted to).

                And yes, of course usenet is faster than torrent. Sure you might have a fresh torrent with tons of high-speed-seeders that downloads at fullspeed. But if that one is a year old you’re often outta luck. If it’s 10 years old you’re most likely outta luck. Never the case with usenet. Always, everything from the last 12yrs at absolute maximum speed your line (and the provider) allows.

                “Free” is relative. If you’re using public trackers, then yes. Private trackers either require to share a lot (ugh, no thanks and also highly illegal here, hence i would need a vpn) or donate. I pay 5 bucks a month for usenet and 25 or so a year for indexers (plural). That’s one delivered (and shitty) pizza here.

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                  Torrent. Phht. Who got the time for that. Sonarr/Radarr/emby(or whichever u prefer) Enter title, wait a minute (unless u r on slow net or prefer 4k remux) and watch. Enter Series-name,go to bed. Enjoy 12 full seasons tomorrow.

                  Not sure how else anyone was supposed to interpret that.

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      4 months ago

      reencoding is not required in advance, it happens on the fly if needed.

      download still needs to be completed first usually, but you can save a lot of time if you compromise in quality.

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        If i watch stuff from the outside on my phone,i really don’t care for quality. Same when I’m at home watching some quick series. For “serious” stuff it takes a while longer. Need to wait some good more minutes for a bd-remux.

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      Sure it needs to download. But i got 10 fibers á 1gbit bundled and a 10gb home network and a good and fast server. So after hitting “search” it’ll take around a minute til it’s leeched, unpacked, sorted and imported into emby. The last part actually take the longest.

      But speed isn’t really the point, it’s hit-search-wait-watch. The wait part depends on you.