I think Buttigieg, Whitmer, Pritzker are bottom tier and I’d be really surprised.
Beshear and Walz I think are the next tier, they don’t bring a state along with them but they’re solid politicians, safe choices.
Kelly and Shapiro are the top tier.
Kelly can help tip/solidify AZ and he has border cred and military experience, probably my top choice and I think you just have to deal with the Senate thing.
Shapiro has been extremely pro-Israel, that exacerbates a party issue and could turn off some voters on the Left, and that’s a bigger concern to me than losing the Senate seat which is why he’s not my top pick, but you also have to realize that PA is almost the whole ballgame this year. If Harris can win PA and the obvious states then she just needs one of Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina.
Buttigieg is a standalone and has been one of the best representations of this administration out there, and huge boon to the Democratic party as well. Not sure why you’d say that.
Whitmer is very popular in her state. Pritzker is meh.
I think you may be a bit behind on some of these folks. You should read up.
Whitmer is top tier but unless she’s been heavily bluffing, she withdrew herself for consideration.
I’d also place Buttigieg in top tier, but also agree it’s coming down to Kelly vs. Shapiro. I think they should go Kelly or Buttigieg over Shapiro but I bet they go Shapiro.
Ideally you’d combine: Kelly’s background with Buttigieg’s debate skills with Shapiro’s public speaking skills with Walz’s candor.
Yes, Whitmer withdrew because she wants to keep working directly in her state. Unfortunately, it would be very unlikely to have a two woman ticket get elected in the US currently as well, so with Harris, they’ve done the calculations and basically said it has to be a white guy, also probably straight, so unfortunately, I doubt Pete would be the pick either. Sucks, but that’s how it is due to some people who live in this country right now.
I personally don’t buy that a gay guy or 2 woman ticket is unelectable. Frankly I remember people saying the same thing about a black guy or a woman in general. I think in this era of MeToo and post-Roe especially that there’s nothing wrong with that. Especially when 99/100 racist sexist homophobic scum are already voting Trump anyway.
I hope those of us who support democrats don’t get in our own way and inadvertently gatekeep good candidates because of what we fear maga will think.
Buttigieg is an excellent communicator but he doesn’t have the bio, yet. Mayor followed by being appointed to a low level cabinet position is nothing compared to Governors and Senators who were elected state-wide.
Harvard Grad, Oxford Rhodes Scholar, who then went into US Naval Intelligence Reserve, became a mayor, deployed while mayor to Afghanistan, then came back and decided he wanted to keep doing public service, ran for US President, and is now Transportation Secretary and Cabinet Member.
Ivory tower elite who became mayor of a nothing city in his 20s with less than 11k votes, sweet talked Party Bosses enough to get the nepotism cabinet slot formerly given to Mitch McConnell’s wife and Bob Dole’s wife.
I like him, I just don’t think he’d be a good VP pick. Let him run for Michigan’s US Senator (or Governor if Whitmer runs for president), now that he lives there. Winning statewide in a swing state is a resume builder.
I think Buttigieg, Whitmer, Pritzker are bottom tier and I’d be really surprised.
Beshear and Walz I think are the next tier, they don’t bring a state along with them but they’re solid politicians, safe choices.
Kelly and Shapiro are the top tier.
Kelly can help tip/solidify AZ and he has border cred and military experience, probably my top choice and I think you just have to deal with the Senate thing.
Shapiro has been extremely pro-Israel, that exacerbates a party issue and could turn off some voters on the Left, and that’s a bigger concern to me than losing the Senate seat which is why he’s not my top pick, but you also have to realize that PA is almost the whole ballgame this year. If Harris can win PA and the obvious states then she just needs one of Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina.
Buttigieg is a standalone and has been one of the best representations of this administration out there, and huge boon to the Democratic party as well. Not sure why you’d say that.
Whitmer is very popular in her state. Pritzker is meh.
I think you may be a bit behind on some of these folks. You should read up.
Whitmer is top tier but unless she’s been heavily bluffing, she withdrew herself for consideration.
I’d also place Buttigieg in top tier, but also agree it’s coming down to Kelly vs. Shapiro. I think they should go Kelly or Buttigieg over Shapiro but I bet they go Shapiro.
Ideally you’d combine: Kelly’s background with Buttigieg’s debate skills with Shapiro’s public speaking skills with Walz’s candor.
Yes, Whitmer withdrew because she wants to keep working directly in her state. Unfortunately, it would be very unlikely to have a two woman ticket get elected in the US currently as well, so with Harris, they’ve done the calculations and basically said it has to be a white guy, also probably straight, so unfortunately, I doubt Pete would be the pick either. Sucks, but that’s how it is due to some people who live in this country right now.
I personally don’t buy that a gay guy or 2 woman ticket is unelectable. Frankly I remember people saying the same thing about a black guy or a woman in general. I think in this era of MeToo and post-Roe especially that there’s nothing wrong with that. Especially when 99/100 racist sexist homophobic scum are already voting Trump anyway.
I hope those of us who support democrats don’t get in our own way and inadvertently gatekeep good candidates because of what we fear maga will think.
Buttigieg is an excellent communicator but he doesn’t have the bio, yet. Mayor followed by being appointed to a low level cabinet position is nothing compared to Governors and Senators who were elected state-wide.
Uhhhh, no…
Harvard Grad, Oxford Rhodes Scholar, who then went into US Naval Intelligence Reserve, became a mayor, deployed while mayor to Afghanistan, then came back and decided he wanted to keep doing public service, ran for US President, and is now Transportation Secretary and Cabinet Member.
Sounds like a pretty fucking solid resume to me.
Ivory tower elite who became mayor of a nothing city in his 20s with less than 11k votes, sweet talked Party Bosses enough to get the nepotism cabinet slot formerly given to Mitch McConnell’s wife and Bob Dole’s wife.
I like him, I just don’t think he’d be a good VP pick. Let him run for Michigan’s US Senator (or Governor if Whitmer runs for president), now that he lives there. Winning statewide in a swing state is a resume builder.
Why must the man be named Shapiro, my mind keeps jumping to Ben “mr. facts & logic”
Whitmer has publicly said she is not being vetted