Today, the war on terror is widely accepted as a military and geopolitical failure. But it is still not fully understood as a massive intellectual and moral fiasco: an attempt by the Western media as well as the political class to forge reality itself, which failed catastrophically, but not without embedding cruelty and mendacity deep and enduringly in public life. And partly because this disaster was unacknowledged—editors and writers pushing false narratives, and cheerleading large-scale violence, remained entrenched, and even received promotions—it is being reenacted today in the Western media’s coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza: another war that has ignited a bonfire of international legal and moral norms and deadened and perverted consciences.
There is a very real possibility that a person will come to power in this election who will end elections in the United States, end the rule of law, end protest, end socialism, end third parties, end elections in the future, install his hand-picked generals into the military and then turn the inconceivable power of the United States military loose, not just on a handful of victims who have come into our crosshairs from time to time, but wholesale onto anyone and everyone anywhere in the world who it comes into his head to target.
Do you define sending weapons to Israel as “enthusiastically participate?” Wait until US troops are on the ground in Gaza and Lebanon. Wait until Putin gets a green light to invade anywhere in eastern Europe that strikes his fancy. Wait until the US military is directly attacking anyone inside the borders of the United States that dares oppose his rule, or the rule of the person who comes after him, in this or any future election.
Wait until millions of people of the wrong ethnicity inside the United States are dying in concentration camps. Wait until legal immigrants are being deported by federal troops.
Yes, the system in the United States is far from democracy. Making it ten times worse is not a good solution. Pursuing a solution is a good solution.
Like I say, I have no idea where this argument that it is okay if Trump wins the election came into the comments for this article, but it is wrong, wrong wrong. It is not okay if Trump wins this election. If you actually care about the values expressed in this article I posted, you hopefully can see that. Maybe not.
There is a very real possibility that a person will come to power in this election who will end elections in the United States
And yet, you expect me to believe that voting for the party that just wasted four years not fighting fascism nor strengthening elections is somehow going to prompt different behavior? I don’t know how you’ve managed to convince yourself that voting Democrat changes anything meaningful at this point, as the evidence we have all points to the contrary.
Do you define sending weapons to Israel as “enthusiastically participate?”
Yes. I don’t think that’s unfair or inaccurate. Sending more WMD’s to a genocidal regime is enthusiastic participation by defintion.
Wait until millions of people of the wrong ethnicity inside the United States are dying in concentration camps
It won’t be my fault. It will be the fault of the 99% who always vote party regardless of the quality of the candidate. Heck, six weeks ago both parties were literally telling me I had to vote for an evidently cognitively-impaired candidate as a moral imperative.
If you are waiting for either mainstream political party to suddenly become champions of the people on their own, and you’re refusing to take certain actions even in the face of catastrophic threat until they do, then yes, it will be your fault if the catastrophe comes true.
That outcome may be fine for you, and you may feel virtuous about your participation in that outcome for your reasons. It’s somewhat safe for you if you’re wealthy and white and born in the US and not active in left-wing politics, and confident that that all of that will keep you safe from a second Trump presidency. Of course there’s no way to be sure that it will. But regardless, a lot of people don’t have that luxury.
My friend you are talking to a dork or possibly a bot. Lemmy is infested. Maybe its a paid troll or maybe they’re just fucking strikingly stupid/accelerationists (but I repeat myself) but they’re basically out here to drive you mad. Talk to your real world friends about this topic and try phonebanking.
If it were up to this individual Trump would have walked into office on Jan 20th 2021 right after attempting a fascist coup. Because then the matetial conditions for The Revolution would come or something. Every four years like clockwork the accelerationists backed by bots come out of the woodwork to try and make sure Donald Trump wins because WHOEVER he is running against must be worse, not by dint of actually being a worse person or statesman than DJT, but because they’re not the FALGSC messiah. You’re talking to a death cultist.
Forty-plus years of partisan voters incrementally deciding that nothing mattered more than team color has led inevitably to these circumstances. Unless you are a billionaire or willing to commit an act of terrorism (neither of which apply to me or you, most likely) you have no meaningful power whatsoever to change this.
There is a very real possibility that a person will come to power in this election who will end elections in the United States, end the rule of law, end protest, end socialism, end third parties, end elections in the future, install his hand-picked generals into the military and then turn the inconceivable power of the United States military loose, not just on a handful of victims who have come into our crosshairs from time to time, but wholesale onto anyone and everyone anywhere in the world who it comes into his head to target.
Do you define sending weapons to Israel as “enthusiastically participate?” Wait until US troops are on the ground in Gaza and Lebanon. Wait until Putin gets a green light to invade anywhere in eastern Europe that strikes his fancy. Wait until the US military is directly attacking anyone inside the borders of the United States that dares oppose his rule, or the rule of the person who comes after him, in this or any future election.
Wait until millions of people of the wrong ethnicity inside the United States are dying in concentration camps. Wait until legal immigrants are being deported by federal troops.
Yes, the system in the United States is far from democracy. Making it ten times worse is not a good solution. Pursuing a solution is a good solution.
Like I say, I have no idea where this argument that it is okay if Trump wins the election came into the comments for this article, but it is wrong, wrong wrong. It is not okay if Trump wins this election. If you actually care about the values expressed in this article I posted, you hopefully can see that. Maybe not.
And yet, you expect me to believe that voting for the party that just wasted four years not fighting fascism nor strengthening elections is somehow going to prompt different behavior? I don’t know how you’ve managed to convince yourself that voting Democrat changes anything meaningful at this point, as the evidence we have all points to the contrary.
Yes. I don’t think that’s unfair or inaccurate. Sending more WMD’s to a genocidal regime is enthusiastic participation by defintion.
It won’t be my fault. It will be the fault of the 99% who always vote party regardless of the quality of the candidate. Heck, six weeks ago both parties were literally telling me I had to vote for an evidently cognitively-impaired candidate as a moral imperative.
Yes it will.
Come to [email protected] and make a better solution.
If you are waiting for either mainstream political party to suddenly become champions of the people on their own, and you’re refusing to take certain actions even in the face of catastrophic threat until they do, then yes, it will be your fault if the catastrophe comes true.
That outcome may be fine for you, and you may feel virtuous about your participation in that outcome for your reasons. It’s somewhat safe for you if you’re wealthy and white and born in the US and not active in left-wing politics, and confident that that all of that will keep you safe from a second Trump presidency. Of course there’s no way to be sure that it will. But regardless, a lot of people don’t have that luxury.
My friend you are talking to a dork or possibly a bot. Lemmy is infested. Maybe its a paid troll or maybe they’re just fucking strikingly stupid/accelerationists (but I repeat myself) but they’re basically out here to drive you mad. Talk to your real world friends about this topic and try phonebanking.
If it were up to this individual Trump would have walked into office on Jan 20th 2021 right after attempting a fascist coup. Because then the matetial conditions for The Revolution would come or something. Every four years like clockwork the accelerationists backed by bots come out of the woodwork to try and make sure Donald Trump wins because WHOEVER he is running against must be worse, not by dint of actually being a worse person or statesman than DJT, but because they’re not the FALGSC messiah. You’re talking to a death cultist.
No, it won’t.
Forty-plus years of partisan voters incrementally deciding that nothing mattered more than team color has led inevitably to these circumstances. Unless you are a billionaire or willing to commit an act of terrorism (neither of which apply to me or you, most likely) you have no meaningful power whatsoever to change this.