For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!

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    The dems are not slightly left, they are right wingers, just not far right. You are voting for the right wing, for the billionaires, the weapon manufacturers, the oligarchs.

    You don’t seem willing to listen to a counterargument, but just in case, you might need to consider where you would put your red line for the lesser evil party. Cause there is necessarily for everyone a red line beyond which both parties would be indistinguishable (think of Hitler and the other party being again Hitler but if he funded the healthcare system a little more - these two alternatives gotta be universally indistinguishable). And since we established that, you should probably realize that for a lot of people that red line has been crossed long ago.

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      Dems are also far right, they just have different expressions of reactionary sentiment. A lot of it is wrapped up in wanting to appear progressive in comparison, but if you look at their real policies the material impacts are often far more negative, being more palatabke means by which to subjugate the masses to capital. Democrats have also been the essential supporters of every major foreign policy conflagration ostensibly done by Republicans.

      They offer a small subset of “social” issues they coopted from the left and then gave themselves credit for. But it is not consistent. They are throwing immigrants under the bus, for example. And they are the consistent opponents of liberatory social change right up until in polls well and they can coopt and pretend to have always supported it.

      But the type of support is always contradictory and often performative. They will wear “protect trans kids” pins and then support anti-homeless pogroms that disproportionately impact trans kids. They will attempt to use correct pronouns and then make it as hard as possible to get gender affirming healthcare. The only liberation they offer is to be assimilated into the capitakist nightmare and to suffer disproportionately while being told to be grateful.

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        Yeah totally, they give too little, it’s always performative, to distract and to use as talking points, they never roll back republican legislation (Clinton for example) and they always have the same line with republicans for the core capitalist matters, like foreign policy, military, police budget etc. It’s a made up dilemma 100%.

        I just have to somehow approach people who disagree, I can’t be so absolute, that’s all lol

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      I’ve heard it all before about how the Dems are right wingers, and I agree, to a point. In practical terms, they are the best option available to make positive change for the things that matter to me, so they will have my support. That’s it. As for a line they must cross to lose said support…I’ll play it by ear and decide then. I don’t bother with tying myself to lines in the sand because things are always more complicated than they seem.

      I will continue to vote for the Democrats because they mostly represent what I want of the two parties I am forced to work with because of our shit system. That’s all there is to it.