• PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 hours ago

    Counterpoint: they’re a bad last resort in that they may or may not shoot well (or at all), but in the leadup, where showing you’re armed as intimidation, they’re as good as any other.

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      3 hours ago

      showing you’re armed as intimidation, they’re as good as any other.

      IANAL BIPONTV

      The circumstances of your concealed firearm not being concealed have to amount to “Imminent threat of great bodily harm or loss of life”.

      Revealing you have a gun, placing your hand on where it is, even “printing” as in it being visible under your clothing, has been considered Brandishing, sometimes a felony and likely a “gun crime”.

      Specifically, trying to intimidate is very much illegal, so certianly don’t put it like that, lol.

      Circumstances may get you out of jail, maybe even with your rights intact, but even showing your gun after being chased with a bat has been ruled aggrivated assault.

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        1 hour ago

        even showing your gun after being chased with a bat has been ruled aggrivated assault.

        As everyone’s fave TV lawyer, do you have the case this was pulled from?

        As for ‘intimidation’, yeah. I was (and still am) struggling to find the right word for ‘am dangerous and could cause everyone here grievous harm, but wont’.

    • cacheson 🏴🔁🍊@piefed.social
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      4 hours ago

      You’re not entirely wrong, since in theory these guns can fire and can kill.

      However, it should be noted that it’s very dangerous to carry a gun that you can’t or won’t fire, for the purpose of brandishing it. If you encounter someone else that has a gun, brandishing a gun yourself is likely to prompt them to shoot you (and gives them legal cover), when they might not have otherwise done so.

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        1 hour ago

        You’re right. My use case scenario was pretty far down the ‘run, hide, fight’ list of options.

        Pepper spray would be much higher on my list of reasonable measures. Basically brandishing these would be limited to effectively a last ditch effort.