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  • What I’m picking up is that it’s not a fully formed set of ideals agreed upon by everyone

    Oh yeah absolutely. I think I was vaguely thinking this in one of my other responses. Fwiw I can imagine seeing basically exactly what you described as some kind of bad doomsday prepper negativist solarpunk, but I couldn’t get over the sense of it being a strawman, or, less dramatically, just the opposite of what a lot of people seem to think they’re joining.

    I was going to respond elsewhere - I don’t think you have to be sold on these solarpunks and their ideas. Not in a mocking way – but I would say my encounters with solarpunks are like my encounters with squirrels. I see them very occasionally, we don’t interact, I take pleasure in the encounter, maybe appreciate something I didn’t before, and then I move on. Based on that you could imagine how little data I have on them


  • Without trying to treat you combatively, I am reading a lot of the same things in the way you talk about things.

    I’ll say again that its possible you and I have seen different solarpunks, but I think you may have waded into a personally difficult topic, since solarpunk as a concept is supposed to be instilled with an awareness that certain kinds of collapse are certain, but that there are things people can do to make life worth living.

    When you are dealing with people trying to find hope and talk about what they can do to live well and not contribute to the worlds problems, and you talk negatively, you are going to find responses like these.

    Hope that didn’t feel like a pile on


  • I am not one of these types, but I did want to ask you if people wanting to grow their own crop always brings up these critical views for you.

    I personally think “self-sufficiency” (may be the wrong term) in vegetable gardening is a great way for people to increase resilience against famine.

    Others have pointed out the anti-consumerism angle - for small scale food gardeners, non-chemical pest deterrance becomes viable in a way impossible for manufacturers of scale, while they can still benefit from any increases in health of the food stock through both traditional selection and genetics research. Very not-Luddites, in that example.

    I would also say - and it is possible that I just haven’t checked in on solarpunks recently enough, and I am missing something - but I always thought it was supposed to be the positive answer to doomerism, and to systemic or social collapse, and to the endless barrage of climate collapse news many of us have grown up with. With that in mind, I would question how much the aesthetics and how much individual examples may distort the overall perception of a movement or community.

    Overall, is it an obsession with primitivism? I don’t think you are completely wrong. Aesthetics have a major impact on people, so it seems reasonable to me that you are reacting to a dizzying mix of politics and motivations, a lot of c/collapse -grade “this stuff is all gonna fall apart”, and maybe seeing some false positives based on your past experiences having to deal with fringe politics.

    Hopefully all of that made any sort of sense




  • Yes! (I assume that it is an option regardless of country)

    I thought I would still want to use my YouTube account because I didn’t know how to troubleshoot Piped Video yet, but in the end it has still been useful because I am still hosting some stuff on Google Drive for other people.

    Dig around the data/privacy part of myaccount.google.com and you should find it. It asks you to enter a new email address, and once you have confirmed it, it will delete the Gmail.

    edit: I guess YMMV - I did this a while back, so please pay attention to whatever warnings it gives you when you elect to delete the Gmail, because I feel like there might be some non-mail interactions that might be involved, or that it may have changed since I did it. also, obviously, I did this step after I was comfortable completely losing access to my email, and had stopped using the app store (what OP was inquiring about)



  • 087008001234@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlSTOP CENSORORING ME TANKIES
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    4 months ago

    I mean, the theory is what people are supposed to be putting into practice.

    I feel like your response is a bit combative and is not actually engaging with what I am trying to say, and it makes sense at the end of this that you have a perception that you’re getting moderated… because you are being an asshole.

    edit: also, even in my comment I said that they’d be bad Marxists IF THEY DIDN’T practice the theory. I gave that to you, and you steamrolled right past it.




  • 087008001234@lemmy.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlagile is far left too. I will die on this hill
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    Thank you for everything you said in the back half! In regards to the first idea – do you think agile is half way to self-management because of its attributes, or because it is something to get people making software in a structured capacity? I live in a world of bad agiles and agile cynics, and so I wonder if I am missing some nuance you may have intended. I guess I ask because I agree with everything you have said but don’t see agile methodology as being important to spreading this message myself.