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  • I’m not saying he wasn’t progressive for his time in the context of those stories, but progressive for his time still meant the utter suppression of women within the culture.

    Women weren’t allowed to have opinions, conduct trade, or own property, because they were property themselves. eta: and Jesus didn’t explicitly say women should have those rights.

    If you believe the bible is the infallible word of god, it shouldn’t be controversial that women are like livestock.

    Now, you can rationalise progressive values by saying if Jesus was alive today, he wouldn’t have gone along with all that, but that’s just not what the bible actually says.




  • Yeah, contradictions are baked in, which is part of why it’s endured this long. But for the misogyny and sexism specifically, there aren’t really any contradictions.

    Jesus never said woman are equal or slavery is wrong. You could maybe argue he didn’t condone the genocide of his father by saying lepers deserved compassion or whatever (though that’s also a stretch), but there’s plenty of misogyny and racism in the new testament as well, so he absolutely did not counter any of that.

    Anyone trying to argue Jesus (an apocalyptic preacher who was a product of his time) wasn’t misogynistic doesn’t actually know scripture or history. The preacher in the article is absolutely following the gospel, even if that’s an uncomfortable truth.





  • Because that’s ageist. You’re operating on stereotypes. Everyone over 70 I know is socialist, and my dad, who’s 88, is the most socialist person I know because he remembers this rhetoric from when he was a child. He was the first in 2015 to say to me he’d heard trump’s rhetoric before, and it led to very bad places.

    Why should my dad, who says he doesn’t vote for himself, but for his kids and grandkids, not be allowed to vote?

    Plenty of people of all ages have empathy. You only hear from the most obnoxious bastards because their insane ramblings get clicks and eyeballs, but painting all people of any age with a brush dipped in the most unhinged is not productive.


  • They do cherry-pick, that’s true. But my point is you don’t have to cherry-pick to wind up at awful levels of misogyny and racism. If you take it at face value, misogyny and racism is the message you should take from it.

    They can hand-wave some of it away with the whole ‘Jesus fulfilled the covenant’ nonsense (which is 109% cherry-picking), but throughout the whole thing, both old and new testaments, women are property and some races are meant to be slaves.

    This is what fundamentalists – who famously don’t cherry-pick, but believe the literal word – believe. It’s atrocious, but their interpretation is literally correct.


  • MAGA is fascism, full stop. That’s not just my opinion – if you can read this list with honesty and not conclude they’re fascists, you’re lying to yourself:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    4. Supremacy of the Military
    5. Rampant Sexism
    6. Controlled Mass Media
    7. Obsession with National Security
    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
    9. Corporate Power is Protected
    10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    14. Fraudulent Elections (or claims thereof)

    It’s outright fascism. That is not hyperbole. And fascism is always a suicide cult. It destroys everything it touches, including itself.


  • It won’t fare well for most of us once habitable regions are flooded with climate refugees whose entire life savings and livelihoods have been wiped out.

    But that doesn’t matter as long as profits are up in the short term, and it especially doesn’t matter to the handful of people who have hoarded enough resources to last them the next thousand years. They have bunkers and yachts and stuff. They’ll be fine, and they’re the ones deciding policy for the rest of us. Maybe they can make reality television where the rest of us fight hunger games style.

    On a totally unrelated note, I’ve heard humans taste like pork.


  • And to punish his perceived enemies, don’t forget that part. And give unchecked power to cronies who openly want to get rid of ‘undesirables’.

    The Nazis didn’t go full Jews-in-ovens at the beginning. First they came for the socialists, and the queers, and the political dissidents, and then everyone who wasn’t white, straight, and christian enough.

    Fascists eliminate everyone until the only ones left to oppress are themselves. They need an enemy, and if you don’t think they’ll eventually come for you, you’re wrong.

    If trump wins, it’ll be historic, all right. Children in 2060 will learn about the 20s and 30s in school as a cautionary tale, and if they’re lucky, some holocaust survivors will still be alive to speak at assemblies. Hopefully those survivors won’t be showing the scars of a nuclear bomb like I saw in school as a child.


  • We’re going to see much more of this in the coming days. At least one shooting at a poll place will undoubtedly happen, and more than likely an actual shootout old-west style where multiple people show up armed and it escalates.

    I’m not just guessing – this is based on what people have actually said. Some idiots have proudly proclaimed they’ll go to the polls armed and sound to be spoiling for a confrontation.

    I hope nobody is actually killed, but I won’t be surprised. This election is already hotter than I’ve ever seen, with bomb threats, election offices being shot at, drop boxes set on fire, etc, and it’ll only get worse. The fascists are itching for bloodshed.


  • Well, yeah. The bible was written in a place and time where women were property, like livestock, and if you actually believe those teachings (without doing mental gymnastics), that’s what you should believe.

    The 10th commandment makes this pretty clear:

    You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.

    Women are included in the list of property you shall not covet, on the same level with your neighbour’s servants and livestock.

    Modern christians try to whitewash the religion, but if you take it as it was written, women are akin to livestock.


  • Is this sarcasm? What about people who are infertile? Take away their vote? I had to have an emergency hysterectomy at 28 after my only child was born. Should I not have been allowed to vote after that?

    Yes, selfish sociopaths exist but, believe it or not, most people are able to use empathy to put ourselves in others’ shoes without having to literally be in their position.

    If your comment isn’t /s it’s pretty offensive.