Zionism is a political philosophy. Israel is a secular political state. Judaism is a religion. Jewish is an ethnicity as well as followers of a religion.

One can support Jews and Judaism without supporting the rightwing Israeli government or the country. Millions of Jews worldwide already do.

Germany condemns Iran, does that mean they’re anti-Persian? No.

Likewise if you can pretend all history only started October 7 then you can make yourself sound like the victim. But we both know better, I assume?

“As long as Israel keeps bombing their country, they are going to retaliate.”

The cycle of violence continues.

They actually offered leaks to US newspapers and they all refused to take it. They didn’t want to be attacked by Trump I guess.

Seems like a tactical error since in 2016 Russia just put up a website and dumped it there as well as giving it to Wikileaks.

I’m sure there was a legitimate military purpose for tearing down posters of a victim like Shireen. /s

Netanyahu doesn’t think that far ahead. He hopes to push these various groups into war, then he will cry that he’s being attacked for no reason and get Congress to throw tens of billions of dollars at him, and maybe swing the election to Trump as well.

Trump on Saturday argued it was “too late” to have another presidential debate because Americans have begun casting their ballots in the 2024 election.

Trump has no idea who votes when. He’s just looking for an excuse to say no.

Trump on Saturday argued it was “too late” to have another presidential debate because Americans have begun casting their ballots in the 2024 election.

He has no clue when the election is and is looking for an excuse to say no. I’m sure a staffer told him this idea.

It matters because he’s going to accuse CNN of making it all up.

Is the DNC actually trying to woo Stein voters? They could shift swing states into Blue States, but for some reason they think bashing her will get her voters?

Has the DNC learned nothing from 2016?

Not everyone who opposes Biden’s policies on Gaza is a Russian plant. We know third parties are not viable, but we also want to pressure Democrats. This isn’t hard, and you thinking this is all Russian conspiracy and that you wanna curse out your political allies is a Feinstein-level of out-of-touch rambling. Peace.

All that talk and you still missed the point. You’re trying to tell me that a liberal version of Genocide is somehow better than a Republican version of genocide and that I should try to enthusiastically make one happen.

Why do you think it’s so hard for others to pull the lever for Harris despite that? Harris is part of an administration that helped kill family members of my neighbors. If you can’t see why this makes it hard, I can’t help you.

“A philosophy problem that has existed for thousands of years can be easily solved by me!”

That tells me all I need to know about you.

Exactly. We know how bad Trump is, but Biden in his disastrous “hug Netanyahu” policy went out of his way to not just ignore pro-Palestinian voices but actively insult them. He said “I have zero trust of Palestinians” and publicly supported the invasion of Al Shifa hospital despite the ridiculous and debunked claim that there was a 3 story underground Hamas base beneath it. He overrode his advisors and removed pro-Palestine language in all his October and November speeches. He met with Israeli victims but never met a single Palestinian one and even had his tour bus detour around towns in Michigan that had too many Arab-Americans. He claimed he was looking for peace but vetoed ceasefire attempts and bashed Palestinians in general. (He later privately told people he meant to bash Hamas and shouldn’t have use the words interchangeably, but never apologized).

It’s one thing to hold your nose and vote for Biden, but it’s quite another to vote for him when he’s so unapologetically anti-Palestinian. And his attempt to get Arab-Americans to vote for him when he helped kill their relatives is to ignore them and say “Trump would be worse.” That’s not a winning strategy and he wants to claim he both needs our votes to win but also that we aren’t politically relevant.

I hope Biden retires in shame and that Harris does better. She already had been meeting with Palestinian-American families when Biden refused to be seen with one.

So you’re saying I should still vote for infanticide? I don’t want that kind of blood on my hands. That’s the issue in the Trolley Problem.

Nobody is claiming that and you’re attacking a strawman.

The problem is we don’t want to reward politicians for their bad behavior “because Trump is worse” or get blood on our own hands by voting for someone who will continue the same deadly failed policies. Have you ever heard of the Trolley Problem? It’s not as straightforward as you think.

Poe’s Law of the internet. It’s impossible to tell online if someone is sarcastic or insane.

Most of the hospitals I work at still use pagers.

Yes you can cherry pick examples of punctuated conflict incidents over thousands of years in any community but you’re still misrepresenting it; there was no state of war and the communities got along for thousands of years. They both saw themselves as the same community. Even your own links demonstrate this; you’re pointing to the equivalent of hate crimes and ignoring the fact that both Jews and Arabs were citizens and worked together. Like I said, go and ask historians because they would also tell you that you’re wrong.

Arabs have been attacking Jewish people for literally thousands of years in that region.

False and propaganda. The reality is that Arabs and Jews coexisted in Jerusalem for thousands of years, its only recently within the last century that there was any great animosity. The “Golden Age of Judaism” happened under Arab rule, as they were protected and flourished compared to being driven out of the rest of Europe during their dark ages. That’s where scholars like Maimonides came from.

I’m not going to waste time debunking every facet of your false narrative. If you genuinely want to learn about it ask any history professor; because you’re telling solely the Zionist narrative despite its historical inaccuracies.