You think that’s bad?

Food in most county lockups is so bad, be use of the way it’s funded.

The Sheriff gets paid like $10/day/prisoner, and then they pay for the food.

So there’s a direct financial incentive for them to keep the jail at capacity and provide the cheapest possible meals.

The stigma of primary challenges exists because old guard Dems want everything to run off seniority, because they have the seniority.

And you could kind of make that argument when it was capping out at 30 years experience.

Biden has been in the federal government for about half a century.

When there’s no cap to age, people hang around waiting for their turn, which clogs senior positions and prevents you get generations from getting experience.

It all comes down to old people refusing to step aside for the next generations, and those old people all agreeing that they should hold onto power till they die in office.

They won’t step aside, so for the good of the party, they need to be set aside.

Voters are more important than any party. We don’t need them, they need us.

The party says who is on the ballot…

I really don’t think a significant amount of voters would write in Biden over any listed Dem.

If last night was Biden robo-tripping, then he’s got a steady habit.

It doesn’t literally eat holes in your brain like the guy that popularkzed it decades ago later claimed. But it’s still not good long term, especially not for a guy in his 80s.

Yeah…

You send them that back in an email telling them to submit a ticket.

If you fix it too, they’re not gonna put a ticket in.

In retrospect, maybe we should have had a Primary debate after all

We need to every election.

Bernie pulled Biden’s campaign (if nothing else) to the left, which helped Biden in an incredibly close general.

The primary is a chance for party voters to show what they want, and the winning candidate then knows where his bread is buttered.

With no primary, there’s no one to pull Biden left, and he cant afford to lose any votes from 2020.

But this time Biden doesn’t give a fuck what voters say unless they’re saying how great he is. It’s the same sense of entitlement that cost Hillary her election and got trump his first term.

We’re just repeating 2016

the dangerous Trump argument is absolutely not one to be downplayed

Which is why it’s so bad Biden insists on staying in the race.

If he thought beating trump was the most important thing, he’d have announced years ago that he wouldn’t run again.

But he’ll never stand down. Because he wants a second term more than stopping trump from having a second.

And people realizing Biden is risking that for his own ego, makes him even less likely to stop trump.

Historically “vote for me or else” doesn’t work well

We know what works to motivate Dem voters: young, charismatic, and progressive sounding candidates.

We can’t get that to stop trump, because 82 year old Biden won’t retire.

Technically it’s the head of the DNC.

Now, once a Dem president wins an election, they nominate that position, and a bunch of other DNC voting seats. And the DNC historically goes along with that. So it is very very unlikely for the DNC to then turn against an incumbent 4 years later.

But it is technically possible for an incumbent to be booted forcibly from their party’s ticket.

No worries, the English language is almost completely illogical.

But yeah, with a 2 minute timer it’s hard to go into that meaning of a rant.

More of the “ranting and raving” then like a Dennis Leary standup joke that has a 45 minute set up.

Edit:

Oh and your clip is the only one that came up when I was searching, I might try and flip thru the whole debate if I can find that to see if it came up twice. But I probably won’t be that much energy into it, I was probably just remembering it wrong

The worst part is trump has been exactly the same the last three elections.

His bullshit is normalized to most voters.

Biden wasn’t great in 2020, but he’s a hell of a lot worse now. Which is why we never see him compared to other presidents when they were in office.

So for Republicans last night went fucking perfectly. And for Dems, it went about as bad as it could have.

There’s just no reason to run a candidate voters don’t like or agree with just because the other candidate is so much worse. Even if we stop the worst, we still don’t get what we want.

None of it makes logical sense, which is probably why Biden’s few supporters only want to talk about how dangerous trump is. It’s really really hard to come up with a reason Biden should be the candidate. Even being an incumbent doesn’t matter when you have terrible approval ratings, those make incumbency a hindrance not an advantage

Tell them that creating a ticket makes it count for your metrics, so the more people don’t use tickets, the less funding IT gets and your staff will get cut causing longer wait times.

People will understand that and submit tickets.

“hold things together without sliding into pure fascism

Except we’ve been doing that since 2016, for lots of even 2012 after we felt let down by Obama.

But take a second and think. Are we closer to the threat of pure fascism now than in 2016?

It’s just a question of how fast we slide, which long term is unsustainable. We need to at least stop the slide and we just have t been doing that.

and actually how well he did quickly processing and responding to trump’s gish gallop and unchecked stream

Yeah, but that’s literally the worst strategy in response to a gish gallop…

And I’m not sure many would agree he did it quickly or competently

Remember when we had functional adults running for president?

Feels like lifetimes ago, but it only stopped being a thing when Trump showed up and Dem leadership decided we don’t need to find a good candidate anymore.

we went through a bunch of primaries, and he has won enough delegates to be the nominee.

Lol…

NH got their delegates removed because they keep voting progressive and the DNC declared Biden the winner after like a week.

For a lot of states, Biden was the only option listed

Nobody else can swoop in and take over

Right.

This all hinges on either Biden or the person he appointed to head the DNC doing the right thing to give us the best shot of stopping trump.

It’s incredibly unlikely, especially if no one speaks up and says Biden hurts our chances of stopping trump.

Biden is the one person in America not doing everything he can to stop trump who has the power to almost guarantee Trump is stopped.

All he has to do is realize at 82 years old, maybe he shouldn’t be committing to 4 years of the most stressful job on the fucking planet.

Elizabeth Warren

Kamala Harris

AOC

Bernie (but he wouldn’t run)

Pete Buttigeig (he’d be just as bad, but he’d be easier to get elected)

Happy?

My point was “election ready” is meaningless.

Are you unable to answer my question, because I’m answering yours

You literally didn’t…

What do you think “election ready” means?

Calling it ranting is hyperbole

For an average person? Sure.

Rant: to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

For last night? It was one of Biden’s most energetic responses…

For him, it was noisy, excited, and declamatory in manner.

In the context of Joe Biden, he was ranting about it.

Quick edit:

Your clip isn’t the one I’m remembering from last night and that my link referenced. I’ll try and find the other one, I didn’t know he pulled the same pivot twice.

Who is a potential candidate who will be election ready in four months, because it’s not going to happen.

What do you think “election ready” means?

Because with the current state of things, to me it just means their name goes on a ballot.

Don’t you remember the hype about how much Biden prepped for this debate? And this is what we got.

and is doing a damn fine job of it

You may hold that opinion, Biden definitely holds that opinion. But most Dem voters dont believe it.

Not everyone shares your opinion on things, and we know that because polling is a thing.

I just don’t see how anyone can declare Trump the winner

trump supporters were always going to say it, but who cares what they think?

Everything is about what Biden did poorly.

Because when the only other option is trump, it really matters if Biden isn’t capable.

Are the right-wing forums sitting around this morning discussing what great ideas Trump put out last night?

Again, who cares?

And why does it sound like you want Dem voters to be more like Republican voters and have zero standards besides the letter by someone’s name?

You can’t turn the Dem party into the Republican party. If that’s what Dem voters wanted from a party. They’d be Republican voters.

It’s easier to change the candidate than 60 million Dem voter’s standards…

Look at Biden’s poll numbers…

Someone that no one knows with a D by their name is still going to be “not trump” and get every single vote that Biden will get.

Along with the votes of people that can’t ignore a genocide, that can’t ignore human rights abuses at our own border, or any of the other areas where Biden is significantly more conservative than Dem voters.

The more people know about Biden, the less they support him. That is why a completely unknown “empty suit” has a better chance at stopping trump

Bonus points if they’re not two decades past the retirement age for their generation