I don’t know about you but I find these bot posts actually useful! And there’s healthy discussion too which is the point of lemmy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

Youtube is past the growth phase, at this point it’s about minimising cost and maximising revenue.

If you regularly use it with adblock but decide to stop using it because of this, then youtube would have succeeded. You weren’t making them money and were costing them bandwidth, so good riddance.

If you really want to stick it to them, turn on adblock, find some long videos and play them on mute in the background at 4K/1080p60 resolution. Cost them even more bandwidth.

Even better, start randomly disliking videos or making nonsensical comments (not hateful or toxic ones, just comments that don’t make sense). Enshittify it further.

Have you or your parents never used a phone book to look up businesses and ended up calling A1 Plumbing, AAA locksmith, etc?

Interesting… I switched away from Samsung and actually hated stock Android!

• I actually preferred One UI to the standard pixel, mainly because Google ruined the quick settings - they made each button unnecessarily big, and turning on/off the wifi requires two taps instead of one now (Internet > Wifi). That’s something I can’t change without rooting.
• Some Samsung stock apps are actually a great alternative to the android ones (I use Samsung Notes a ton). The only downside is they force you to download it through their own app store.
• Samsung doesn’t really have much bloat now, and the few pieces of bloat i found could be uninstalled
• Samsung is still the only phone manufacturer with triple camera setups in a small flagship phone

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not perfect, but the issues I had with Samsung were solvable (e.g. uninstalling bloat is a one-time thing) while the annoyances I’ve had with a Pixel aren’t solvable (quick settings, no third camera).

BE NICE.

It’s ok to have different opinions, it’s not ok to insult others.

So basically, bosses can’t deal with the fact that they can’t step out of their room and yell at people, and therefore still want to inconvenience everyone.

MOD NOTE: BE NICE.

It’s ok to disagree, it’s not ok to insult or threaten other posters with violence.

I mean, trump was crazy to suggest injecting bleach, but maybe eating it on a side salad helps with covid?

(please don’t try this)

removed as the same link was posted before!

But the whole “Have your boss or subordinate over for dinner” BS was never my thing.

TBH I truly think it was a boomer invention that died in the 80s, because nobody I know ever did anything like this willingly.

That was for a different time and era when company loyalty was a thing. When you intended to work for a company for decades, forming relationships with your boss actually meant something.

Nowadays employees are just disposable assets, so why bother forming deep bonds with your coworkers?

For a site filled with users who are more tech-savvy than the average person, I’m surprised there is such a big dichotomy in views here. Or maybe it’s just one or two really vocal individuals.

I think everyone is agreed that the site is a cesspool that deserves to die. The issue is that getting ISPs to voluntarily block sites based on advocacy is bad. As the provider of a “digital human right”, ISPs should NOT get to decide who gets their service and who doesn’t.

The EFF isn’t supporting hate groups. What they’re saying is that an ISP block is a dangerous precedent.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/anti-work-reddit-abolishwork-fired-b2002606.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10448117/Dog-walker-30-works-20-hour-week-goes-viral-promoting-anti-work-movement.html

Here’s the full interview - you can see the Fox news host get nicer and nicer as he realises that this is going to be a slam dunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc

That’s a fair point, but antiwork as a brand is effectively a laughing stock now. Anybody who wants to discredit the movement now and in future will simply point to the Fox News interview. If the conspiracy theories were true, the false flag operation worked.

My original point still stands - the antiwork sub is a mix of people with different goals. That’s not sustainable. fuckcars as a movement is more homogenous, so it works.

You misunderstood me - when I said I was “part of antiwork”, what i meant was that I was a subscriber (and somewhat frequent) poster, but I was never a moderator of anything on reddit. And by “folks”, I meant people who participated in the sub, not the founders or mods.

I know about the whole debate with the founders being CIBC bankers. I honestly don’t know what’s the true story with the mods. What I do know is that the name, description and stated purpose of “work reform” is more in line with my personal views than “anti work”. antiwork started off as an anti-labor movement and as the sub grew, the mods didn’t really keep the discussion on track, so it became this weird hybrid sub that was supposed to be antiwork, but had 70% workreform and 30% antiwork posts. Admidst the discussion after the Doreen incident, it was clear from the comments within the sub (from users, not mods) that there were strong antiwork voices as well as strong workreform voices. It was just the catalyst that gave the workreform participants a chance to split off.

The only moderation experience I have on reddit was a few years ago, and I stepped down after the sub got past >25k subs because I just wasn’t interested in dealing with reports. I have no intention of becoming a “top mod” or whatever here, and I’m not that interested in admin/mod drama and shenanigans. Lemmy is a new start for many of us old-timey Redditors, and I created this community because I couldn’t find one that gels with my philosophy on work, and I believe it’s something that affects enough of us that we should talk about it.

If you believe in the stated goals of workreform (addressing wage inequality and capitalism, as opposed to abolishing labor altoghether), you’re welcome to participate here and mod if you want!

the community over there was started by bankers after the successful takedown of antiwork as a means of coopting the movement and deradicalising it

I’m not sure about that - I was part of the original antiwork sub, but it was clear that the sub consisted of a mix of folks - there were the “literal” antiwork folks who want to abolish paid labor, and people who wanted better wage equality. After the whole Doreen incident, the latter split off into workreform.

Not the same - I started using lemmy after the reddit changes and thought this place deserves a workreform community as well!

the best way of protesting against chores!

Some people are worried that it may feel sexual.

I… did not know this was a concern? lol

you know you done bad when someone asks you for something in writing