Dated: 2024-12-05. Added: 2024-12-05. Alternate title: “After UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Killing, Americans Express Frustration With Health Insurance Industry”.

  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    17 days ago

    That’s not true.

    I hated the insurance companies yesterday, but I wasn’t posting about actually killing anyone.

    People have been talking about guillotines in the abstract. Now they are talking about it in concrete terms.

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      17 days ago

      No way to tell why the working class would feel this way.

      Just no way to know what compells normal citizens to thrist for blood.

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          17 days ago

          One thing I’ve learned is that abusers don’t see themselves as abusers.

          They’re “Doing what is necessary”, the abuse “hurts them more than it hurts you”.

          They can’t hear your cries, your pleas fall on hearts of stone.

          And most of all they absolutely cannot understand why you are still upset about it.

          There was a time when I had a pickaxe in my hands and my abusive stepdad turned his back to me. For a moment I knew I could murder him, I could bury that pickaxe in his skull and he couldn’t stop me.

          I felt at that moment that nothing that would happen to me as a consequence of doing that would be worse than the abuse I was going through at that time.

          I don’t know what stopped me. I had to live with the abuse for another full year after that moment.

          To this day, my mom has no idea how close I came to becoming a murderer.

          If you knew me, the idea of me wanting to pop a man’s head like a rotten coconut would seem cartoonish and comical.

          But I was close.

          If I knew I was dying and I met the man responsible for it, I could cross that line.

          I’ve been close before.

    • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Ex US attorney Preet Bharara says that an important boundary is when a fantasy “graduates”, going from protected free speech to credible threat.

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        17 days ago

        It seem socials are very clear on this line… it aint a crime to cheer.

        Also, this has been so effective that media is unable to provide a coherent rebuttal within the oligarch framework. This guy was not an owner but he was a topish officer within their system responsible for a division within a strategic sector. They need this guy to be a martyr but public rejected that narrative and just meme the death with some heavy social commentary on the current conditions within health industry and broader economy.

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            17 days ago

            Well, a lot of mods just journalist in the news sub. So this is classic, check who you can’t criticize test.

            They won’t permit you to provide any counter narrative.

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        17 days ago

        Which is very elastic.

        Think of it this way; no one is threatened by the sight of Al Yankovic coming down the street in a tank. People run for cover when Joe Pesci walks into a store and asks how much for a chainsaw.

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        16 days ago

        Thought crimes don’t exist. One has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the thought crimer is taking actions to carry out real crimes.

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        17 days ago

        Here’s the thing. The French and Russian governments were unprepared for massive civil unrest.

        Here in America we have companies like Blackwater [or whatever they are calling themselves this week] Staffed by ex-CIA hotshots with access to a massive data base and lots and lots of money.

        I’d bet anything that they are already planning to capitalize on this attack.

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          16 days ago

          I’d bet anything that they are already planning to capitalize on this attack.

          My guess is they’re currently consulting their legal teams and politicians, trying to figure out how to get the public to pay for their own private Secret Service for corporate executives.

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            16 days ago

            I have another comment in this thread. I said that 9/11 gave us the Patriot Act and that this attack will probably lead to something worse.

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          17 days ago

          This whole story-arc gives first move advantage to the opposition, the oligarchs are being forced to react instead of execute plans as they wish

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            17 days ago

            No.

            This is a blip on the radar. Gamestop didn’t destroy the stock markets and this isn’t going to do anything but get people riled up.

            9/11/2001 gave us the Patriot Act. You can bet that Trump will push through a law letting any CEOs body guards shoot at will.

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          16 days ago

          Some of us have nothing left to lose. Fuck the private military contractors. Guns and drones are the great equalizer. They’ve waged war on us for decades it’s about time we fight back.

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        17 days ago

        Read up on what happened in France after the guillotines… Maybe not the best idea to repeat that error.