• baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
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      Meanwhile, builds the largest highway network in the world, many even in cities; maintain shitload of free parking; also enforces minimum parking requirements, all at the expense of tax payer.

      People without cars are literally forced to pay to make everyone’s life worse.

      FREEDOM!

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          In some state, yes, if by “most” you mean “more than 50% of road expense is paid by toll and car related taxes”.

          But that is still a huge percentage not covered by tax for car users, requiring other foundings to cover them. The highest percentage paid by user tax and toll is not even 70% in all the U.S. states.

          Not to mention many state dont even cover 50%; some only cover as low as 19% or even 12%.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mapping-how-u-s-states-pay-for-roads

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            Well, we all benefit from the road system even if we ourselves don’t drive, so I guess it’s fair.

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              It depends, in a country where the road system makes sense, sure. In rural area where every road serves a purpose: connecting business to transport goods, sure.

              But excessive roads in cities and suburbs? No. Many roads in city and suburbs of the U.S. should be closed for cars, and be bike, bus, and emergency vehicles only. Since cars either don’t use them that much or just don’t have good experience on them because of the congestions. This also saves road maintainance, enables a smoother experience in transport and emergency vehicles, controls emission, and encourage a health life style in general.

              It is again about the right tools for the job. A loaded van to transport fruit to the local farmer’s market, emergency vehicles, these are times where cars are the right tools. On the other hand, F150 is not the right tool to get a Mcdonald’s drive through for one.

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    More and more of these are coming into Australia. They carry extremely small dick vibes. They are fucking annoying how much road space they take up. It’s comical watching them drive around a car park. My friend bought a RAM and his personality changed with it in that he actually belittles our cars and kind of acts like we are weak?! He works as a corporate job and has absolutely no need for such a car apart from helping his inferiority complex. Now I can’t help but dislike anyone who has one of these.

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      They’re popping up here in the UK too. Our winding pre-industrial roads really aren’t big enough for these road tanks, they constantly get in the way. They’re even too big for a lot of parking spaces, you see them spilling over all the time.

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    Don’t give any Republicans any ideas. They might consider this seriously.

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    I have no idea why F-150’s keep getting bigger. Do people really like that shit? Old trucks are so much better, from design to MPG.

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      I think there’s a huge percentage of truck drivers who never use their truck for truck stuff. It’s simply a status symbol to them which is pathetic. And bigger equals better in their feeble minds.

      I have a 13 yr old Tacoma and it’s tiny compared to even the modern “small” trucks. When this thing finally dies, I have no idea what I’ll get. I love the size of it though. Maybe a Ford Maverick, but those are on backorder for years I heard from several friends who tried to get one.

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        I use my truck for hauling stuff and camping.

        For hauling big is objectively better. Without a doubt.

        And for camping it’s nice that I can sleep in the 6.5 foot bed of my truck with the camper on it, and also fit my camping supplies in the back seat of my full sized cab. I only put maybe 300 miles a month on it. So it’s not like I’m driving it as my primary. But yes, it’s huge.

        Driving to the coast, pointing the back of my truck toward the ocean, and laying in the comfy queen sized bed with a roof and windows, reading a book, with my my wife is one of my favorite weekend activities. And having the instant privacy is very nice.

        My other car is a tiny Honda. Which is great for everything else.

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    There are some minibuses that my local transit provider uses for suburban routes, the kind that’s a bus cabin bolted to a modified Ford truck body or van. Something I noticed riding those buses is that the operator sits lower and has a smaller engine compartment up front obstructing their view than a lot of five-seater SUVs. Hell, some SUVs are nearly as wide and long as a minibus, just not as tall.

    Also, those buses are operated by trained CDL drivers who are subject to regular examination and tracking of their performance by both the CDL issuer and the transit authority. Can you say the same for the average family SUV?

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      Short answer: No.

      Long answer: it doesn’t matter what fuels the vehicle. The community is called Fuck Cars for a reason. Except for certain situations where they are absolutely necessary (commuting using a personal vehicle is not one of those necessities) should not be a thing. It’s a place where most agree 15 minutes cities, bikes, and public transport should be what everyone uses to get around.

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        Every time I read these kinds of arguments, my eyes are rolling backwards.

        Fuck cars in cities. Yes. But what is about the country side?

        What is about the farmer, producing our food, who is depended on a private car to reach the next city? Should he move into the city? And then? What do we eat? Mass produced meat?

        What about shift workers in smaller cities?

        Not everyone has access to Public transport all the time.

        What is about people with disabilities?

        Or neurodivergent people? I for my part are on the autistic spectrum. While I can travel shorter times with Public transport, long train rides are a serious problem. To many people and no control over breaks. And there are other people on the spectrum, that have it far worse then me in that regards.

        There are many cases, where personal transport via car is the only viable option.

        You argument is from a privileged point of view. A privilege that not all people have. Be able to use public transport.

        If we want to be taken seriously, we must see the reality, and accept limitations.

        And just for completeness: while I would love to have more then 2 busses a day to the next village, and a direct connection to the next train station, i also see that this would be not only a financial issue for the provider, it would also produce much more co2 then the individual transport that it would eliminate. Low passenger count but high vehicle frequency are a bad combination.

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          Cars are fine in the country side, they’re also fine for people with different necessities such as being disabled or in the spectrum. I haven’t anyone seriously say anything to the contrary. That’s the most common straw man argument I see here.

          Hopefully public transport would work at odd hours even in small city, if only at reduced frequencies.

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            This.

            We needed better public transport. We need cities, that are not build around cars.

            The argument that cars are never ok slips out fast. And it is fine in many cases. Especially if we are talking about specific scenarios. SUV’s are never ok. I go with that. Especially if we are talking about American SUVs. These things are just completely insane.

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          The countryside should have better links much of the countryside is a chicken egg situation. I am sure the town with 50 people is a fringe issue, which I have no solution for other than better designing the town so you don’t have to drive if you are shopping locally if needed.

          Well the farmer can keep his vehicle to transport his produce into towns, go to farmers markets etc. I have no qualms for that.

          Shift workers in smaller cities should be able to get a bus. Should.

          You got me on people with disabilities. I did not think about that, but that does go two ways some people with disabilities can’t drive and with public transport the way it is they basically get stuck where they are.

          There are many cases, where personal transport via car is the only viable option.

          That one is kind of the point of this place a load of people pissed off that car centricity has caused it to be the only viable option.

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        Them’s fighting words unless you include “bike-ish things” in that bike category.

        My PEVs take up less space than my bike and work much better with public transit.

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    ugh. my sister at one point had one of those H3’s and gushed about how safe it made her feel for her and her children. Yeah safer for you!

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      At least it wasn’t the H2! One of the worst vehicles I had to drive when it comes to visibility (second only to the F650) and I probably have driven a thousand different models in the 10 years I was a valet!

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    One thing that always strikes me is once you* notice how many giant ass vehicles are on the road…you can’t unnotice it lol.

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    Trucks are commercial vehicles. You need them for towing, hauling and other construction related activities. License, permit and tax them as such. If you have a huge boat or RV you need to tow, get and pay for a permit. Have the taxes be based on mileage so the more they’re used, the more expensive it is. We invented weigh stations to make trucks compensate for the additional strain they put on roads. Same for these trucks. That’ll help prevent them from being daily drivers.

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    I recently moved to a state where there are so many giant vehicles, and I drive a compact car. The front of the hood of an f-150 is as tall as my entire car. I feel like I’m the closest to the ground out of all the cars on the highway. You see all these big trucks and SUVs having a hard time maneuvering in parking lots. Why do all these people need such giant vehicles? Gas is expensive enough in my little tiny car, is the worse mileage even worth it?

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    Should be required by law that all new cars have Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) systems. In the same way that seatbelts and rear cameras are required. Would be surprised if it’s nit required by 2030.