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Bread is best as a butter or cheese delivery vehicle.
No matter how you slice it, only the upper crust of bread society can cut it as a standalone food.
Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?
Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.
Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.
I don’t care if it’s good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.
There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).
I used to make a lot of bread and things like pizza dough. I’ve even grown and ground my own wheat and other grains.
And then my partner developed and/or decided they have a gluten sensitivity. Yes I’ve tried making gluten-free whatever but it’s not the same. I want my gluteny-goodness.
I will harbor this resentment forever.
I know it’s not the same, but if you don’t have the sensitivity, then obviously you don’t have to eat the same food.
And yes, I agree, most gluten free replacements are kinda bad. Nowhere near as bad as they were 20 years ago, though. Took me months, but I actually did find a gluten free pasta that’s honestly edible and doesn’t ruin the dish with some weird texture or taste I don’t like.
I only tell you this because I too used to think gluten-free is a fad and people are just “imagining” benefits from going gluten-free free.
I’ve had a stomach pain my entire life. No doctor ever suggested going gluten free and I even had a biopsy taken at 18 to see whether it’s celiacs. Either it was a false negative or I have what is known as NCGS, Non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
And it’s genuinely not a joke.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10593161/
Non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) has been shown to occur in individuals without serological or biopsied evidence of celiac disease (CD), who manifest psychotic ormood disorders that resolve following elimination of gluten. In this case history, we discuss a similar manifestation in a 31-year-old woman without serological evidence of CD, whose psychiatric symptoms improve with gluten elimination.
A 31-year-old Caucasian woman with a history of severe gluten sensitivity, Hashimoto’s disease, mosaic turner’s syndrome, and presumed schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type with multiple inpatient psychiatric involuntary admissions presented to the ED on petition for aggressive behavior by law enforcement. The patient had a week-long break-down at her parents’ home, where she also resides. She reportedly broke several objects and threatened to slit her mother’s throat. On the physical exam, she was malodorous, disheveled, and had long extremely matted hair. Psychiatric evaluation was notable for rambling speech, dysphoric mood, agitation, and irritability. Thought content was disorganized and consisted of grandiose and paranoid persecutory delusions. She was emergently given Haldol for worsening agitation, as she became physically threatening.
And all that goes a way by not ingesting gluten. So you know, which would you rather, a crazy gf and donuts or a friendly gf with some gluten tree donuts which are like sort of okay?
I’m not saying your gf has NCGS but just saying I understand the resentment (id sell my own mother for some proper gluteny carbonara) but going gluten and dairy free (casein, the milk protein, often also caused symptoms with NCGS patients, might want to maybe let your gf know if she’s improved with gluten free but still experiencing some GI symptoms) may have improved her well being so much that I think you should at least try to get over the resentment.
You can’t always go eat out alone. But if she’s maintaining a strict diet, she prolly shouldn’t go to a single fast food burger place. Some of them offer gluten free buns but they don’t guarantee the meal to be glutenfree as its made in the same kitchen. Also, worth asking if they’re have a separate deep frier for gluten free things if getting fries.
Sorry for the rant. I truly understand the resentment and the hankering for cheesy gluteny goodness, trust me. But I also know how massively the diet can improve life quality (Google “gluten belly” for instance for some insta girls showing the difference). And I know how frustrating it can feel when other people see it as something that’s not "really necessary", instead treating it somewhat like someone not liking pickles in their cheeseburger. (I’m sure you don’t treat her like that, I’m talking about people I know.)
For thousands of years the peak of life has been eating fresh bread and drinking wine, it still is tbh. For maximum luxery add fresh cooked meat to the bread :3
And CHEESE !
We should stage a conquest of bread.
Bread is my favourite carb, and it isn’t close. I had a period in my teens of sandwiching everything. Chili? Sandwich. Curry? Sammich. Stews? You guessed it: big mess.
Woah, is it you, Sloppy Joe himself?? 😲
I’m in my mid/late thirties and I still put almost everything in bread. My 4 years old sometimes make bread sandwiches (one type of bread in another type of bread). I’m not there, yet.
Alright, a bread sandwich is interesting. Now I love me some bread, but doesn’t the distinction between loaf 1 and loaf 2 get lost in all the breadyness? If they want a hybrid loaf they probably make those. I suppose at 4 they’re not making themselves, but the bread maker… you… might.
I thought I loved bread, perhaps I merely enjoy it.
No you have to mix the breads. For example, you take a slice of some random bread, put a piece of Lebanese flat bread on it and voilà. And the Child does make the sandwiches. At least those ones.
I’m confused about the single full stop. It shows they have knowledge of basic punctuation, but refuse to use it.
They also resent anti-runon-sentence propaganda
What is there to be confused about? They can speak english correctly, but they simply refuse doing so due to a lack of respect for the language. Almost every professor at my uni is also like this: they have the skills to follow grammatical rules, but they don’t owe it to anyone to actually do it. This is normal.
Also any language where through and threw sound identical doesn’t deserve much respect.
Huh, I thought you were joking, but I just checked on google translate, and apparently the correct way to pronounce “threw” really is the same as “through”. I always pronounced “threw” a bit more in the front of my mouth so it has a different sound. Crazy stuff.
Here’s a bunch of better examples (it’s a 1 minute video).
Bread is like the shady dealer standing just inside a dark alley who, when somebody passes by on the street, goes:
“Hey you!”
“Yes, you.”
“Would you like a little something to make you feel good?”
* Opens long coat, showing a collection of cheeses, butter, peanut butter, jams, ham and other cold meats, and other delicious things that aren’t all that healthy *
“Oh I really shouldn’t, I …”
“Come on dude, this one’s partly mouldy.”
“I TAKE FOUR! I MEAN FIVE!”
Reading “anti crab” propaganda made me think extra.
Did… Did they just make a “pee is stored in the balls” reference?
Carbs aren’t evil but if you don’t want to be overweight you have to eat carbs in moderation. It’s not that hard gang.
I like to go to the bakery down the street and buy a loaf, then just eat the whole thing while it’s still fresh. I’m a scrawny little spitfuck.
Obviously metabolisms can affect things. Also anecdotal evidence on a platform where you post anonymously is less than worthless. It holds about as much weight as me telling you that when I switch to low carb while keeping my portion sizes the same I lose weight.
You said “if you don’t want to be overweight, you have to eat carbs in moderation.” I am not doing that, and am not overweight.
If you’re going to word something as absolute, on the internet, you better be prepared for exceptions in reply.
Dude your anecdotal evidence from an anonymous account does not trump reality but go off buddy.
What a load of bullshit. Tell that to the Italians, where they eat ridiculous amounts of pasta, pizza and baked goods a and have the lowest obesity rates in Europe.
Food quality + more walking + meat in moderation.
Lol how is food quality, moderation with meat portioning, and exercise not calories in vs calories out? Guaranteed Italian portions are lighter and their food has less calories per meal.
Who said anything about calories? Of course it’s about calories. You said carbs are reason people get fat.
Can you differentiate between “carbohydrates” and “calories”?
So you’re either saying that “food makes you fat”, which is a real genius moment, or that “carbohydrates make you fat” which is simply false.
I thought you were replying to my other response, which simply stated that weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out. High carb foods tend to have more calories. That’s all I’m saying here. You can eat carbs in moderation and live a healthy lifestyle and still lose weight. Like Jesus man, calm the fuck down hahaha
You’re putting an insane amount of words in my mouth here.
My dude, that’s not what you said in the top comment.
You’re perpetuating a bullshit myth about carbs making you fat, which is pure nonsense.
Now, when you’re called out, you’re adding all these asterisks.
Man I’m just so not interested in wasting anymore time with this stupidity. Believe what you want.
Yeah, good choice. Next time please don’t waste everybody’s time with bs misinformation and don’t click that “post” button. Thanks in advance.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked? As long as you eat halfway clean and at a deficit, you lose weight. And you don’t gain weight by eating a lot of carbs, as long as you don’t have a caloric surplus.
Weight loss is literally calories in vs calories out. That’s it. Carbs generally have way more calories than foods without carbs. Low carb definitely works for weight loss, so I don’t know if I’d call that debunked.
It’s really simple. But these fad diet cultures we get sucked into have made us all crazy it feels like.
Any restrictive diet can lead to weight loss, because you’re not allowed to eat the stuff you wanna eat, so you don’t eat as much.
If there’s nothing special about carbs (and I don’t think there is…) that’s what I’d call “debunked.”
High carb foods have more calories than low carb ones by a wide margin. Which is why it works. And if it works, it is not debunked.
Fat has more than double the calorie density, I’m not sure what you mean by “high carb food have more calories”.
Well you shouldn’t go heavy on high fat foods either. Where did I say that you should?
and at a deficit, you
Well that’s the thing, carbs are just very calorie dense so eating cards makes it harder to eat at a deficit.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked?
What does this even mean? Nobody that I know of has ever asserted that low carb diets are the only way to lose weight. Low carb diets tend to reduce appetite which helps in achieving a calorie deficit, that’s all .
Actually fat makes you fat and carbs make you crab
The incessant lurch of time makes us crab and there’s nothing we can do about it
Exactly. Might as well indulge in feasting on Jesus’s body.
That sounds like something a carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger would say…
No, carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger was my father.
You got it all wrong, you just have to work out a lot and then eat all the carbs you want
Hell yeah! This also works! It’s what I generally have to do to lose weight because I fucking love high calorie high carb foods. I also love jogging though so it evens out.
Bakers knead bread to explore their souls.
And get ripped forearms.
God gave us grain but not bread so that we, too, could indulge in the joy of creation.
In 1900 the average French person was eating 900g of bread per day.
I’m working on it to reach this level again.
