🤦♀️ I literally gave you the space requirements of cars vs PT in a city that already has stellar public transport compared to the US, and you still can only come up with this utterly lobotomized hot take. Please tell me you’re not developing something important.
Public transport needs much less space than cars. Especially if you put all the parking lots into the equation. So much space in cities is wasted by cars that do not even move most of the day.
my dude you do realize that’s exactly what people did in the past before cars existed, right? There’s a video of olden gothenburg that shows kids running in front of the trams for fun!
And if you go there now you’ll see people crossing precisely wherever the fuck they please, because it’s just inherently way easier to deal with a couple public transport vehicles per minute than it is 50 cars.
The point is that the whole thing should be designed differently. We should focus these spaces around people rather than cars. There probably wouldn’t even be roads there at all. Streets would be fewer and with more space between them, and they would be designed to defer to pedestrian traffic more often, rather than the other way around. Bus stops would be on those streets, and pedestrians would walk a distance away to board them, while moving through safe, walking-focused sidewalks and avenues on the way.
It’s almost like everyone would have more space if cars wouldn’t eat up 50% of the available space, while public transport and bikes only get 4% and 2%… :O Ö O: .O.
And this is in an area of Berlin where only 13% of trips are taken by car while bikes and public transport account for 32% and 22%.
Buses are better than cars but they’re still the worst form of public transport. They pollute like cars. They’re dangerous like cars. And they move as slowly as the traffic, like cars.
Also delivery vehicles? The hipster organically grown vegetables in the local bodega at the foot of your apartment building in your walkable urban utopia don’t arrive there by magic.
Okay, so if there are no more cars and only public transports, people can walk all over the road without worry? Where do you think buses drive?
It’s a fucking metaphor. JFC…
Most transit advocates prefer trams/streetcars over buses. They’re safer and can coexist with people much better.
Not to mention the fact that rails can be placed underground
It’s one bus every so often vs a non stop stream of cars. That’s the difference.
It’s only every so often because of all the other cars there. When there are no cars, the buses will be a LOT more frequent
🤦♀️ I literally gave you the space requirements of cars vs PT in a city that already has stellar public transport compared to the US, and you still can only come up with this utterly lobotomized hot take. Please tell me you’re not developing something important.
As frequent as cars are now? Doubtful.
Public transport needs much less space than cars. Especially if you put all the parking lots into the equation. So much space in cities is wasted by cars that do not even move most of the day.
my dude you do realize that’s exactly what people did in the past before cars existed, right? There’s a video of olden gothenburg that shows kids running in front of the trams for fun!
And if you go there now you’ll see people crossing precisely wherever the fuck they please, because it’s just inherently way easier to deal with a couple public transport vehicles per minute than it is 50 cars.
The point is that the whole thing should be designed differently. We should focus these spaces around people rather than cars. There probably wouldn’t even be roads there at all. Streets would be fewer and with more space between them, and they would be designed to defer to pedestrian traffic more often, rather than the other way around. Bus stops would be on those streets, and pedestrians would walk a distance away to board them, while moving through safe, walking-focused sidewalks and avenues on the way.
This surely translate to less traffic, better commute times, less noises, less pollution, safer streets and the list goes on.
It’s almost like everyone would have more space if cars wouldn’t eat up 50% of the available space, while public transport and bikes only get 4% and 2%… :O Ö O: .O.
And this is in an area of Berlin where only 13% of trips are taken by car while bikes and public transport account for 32% and 22%.
Buses are better than cars but they’re still the worst form of public transport. They pollute like cars. They’re dangerous like cars. And they move as slowly as the traffic, like cars.
To be fair, some cities have an EV bus fleet, which is much less polluting.
True but tyre pollution and road wear are still huge issues.
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Also delivery vehicles? The hipster organically grown vegetables in the local bodega at the foot of your apartment building in your walkable urban utopia don’t arrive there by magic.
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If I don’t invent someone to be mad at how am I supposed to reinforce that I’m right?
Pour one out for all the Dutch, who don’t know what vegetables are because they bike everywhere and have walkable cities.
One of your two braincells must’ve died.