I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I didn’t vote.
In 2020 I voted for Trump because knew Biden would be bad. He has done better than I expected but the inflation is killing me and the focus on the wrong thing isn’t helping.
Early on I was a De Santis fan but my interest has waned as he has taken hard stances on things that need compromise.
Wuhan-1 had R0 of around 1.5; certainly no more than 2. Later variants had a higher base replication rate but those variants only came about because of the uncontrolled spread of Wuhan-1.
The largest issue with Covid was most people didn’t show symptoms. It also had a long incubation time. Before we even knew it was here, it was already here.
I’ll pretend you are an expert for a minute. Since Covid was showing up in Sewage in spain months before we had the outbreak, I do have to ponder how this all really broke down.
We didn’t “know it was here” because Trump prevented all surveillance activity. Remember it spread in China for three months before the first US cases. We had plenty of time; Trump was just too incompetent. The first community transmission in the US was actually identified almost immediately after it happened.
Wuhan-1’s presymptomatic infectious period is less than four days, actually less than lots of other illnesses.
It didn’t “show up in sewage in Spain” before the Wuhan outbreak. Sewershed analysis in Spain didn’t start until years later, so that claim isn’t possible to make.
I’m telling you - the incompetence of the US public health response, due to Trump’s mismanagement of Federal public health.
That isn’t correct. We have cases from October that have been identified. If China hadn’t lied, we have had a beer chance to detect it… It was out before we could have done anything.
Here is the cite for it being in Spain in march., 2019. Nine months before the outbreaks. Surprised you hadn’t heard this before because experts have been talking about this for a long time.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idINKBN23X2HQ/
No, we don’t. There were no COVID-19 cases identified in Spain prior to March 2020.
This is a trace of a coronavirus found in a Spanish sewershed sample in 2020, but no one’s disputing that coronaviruses were not in circulation in Spain in March 2019 or at any other time. But it’s not COVID-19 or from any infected individual.
We. America.
Coronavirus circulate all the time. It’s the common cold.
The virus found was Covid.
From the article.
Spanish virologists have found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China, the University of Barcelona said on Friday
No, they didn’t find virus. They found genetic fragments that, when sequenced, aligned to a variant of the COVID-19 genome that didn’t exist at the time the sample was collected.
It’s a bioinformatic false positive, like that study that found “bubonic plague” in New York subways. The “best sequence alignment” is not the same thing as “is actually that disease.” It just means that it’s what’s closest in the database. But something is always closest.
So you are saying the article is wrong? It’s nothing I’ve followed up on much but I’ve seen many articles state it was Covid. The article clearly states Covid.
Did you look up the paper? They explain their methodology and results, and it’s not “we isolated live virus from this sample and confirmed it was COVID-19 Wuhan-1.”
The “trace” they found was a genomic fragment, that, when amplified by an error-prone process and sequenced, best-matched a region of a COVID-19 genome that didn’t exist on Earth when the sample was collected. It’s not a “case of COVID-19 from March 2019” because COVID-19 didn’t exist on planet Earth in March 2019.