• Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      “Start making it less desirable to sneak into the US and people will stop sneaking into the U.S.”

      This seems like 100% sensible thinking.

      Unfortunately it may be easier said than done. In El Salvador for example, US intervention during the 60’s to stop workers from getting rights, and preventing a minimum wage from being set, came in the form of paramilitary groups that became death squads that would murder anyone critical of the government. Things got more violent and dangerous throughout the 70’s, and in the 80’s there was a revolution, and the US responded by pouring in more guns and bombs so the repressive government could kill even more people.

      El Salvador, once widely considered the murder capital of the world, has been pretty fubar ever since. So imagine someone willing to risk their life and walk 3000 miles for a chance at a better life. They might not be deterred very easily.

      • MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        So imagine someone willing to risk their life and walk 3000 miles for a chance at a better life. They might not be deterred very easily.

        So then make it such that there’s nothing here for them and make sure they know that their prospects here would be worse than at home.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        It’s easy. You put troops on the border or criminal charges for people who hire them

        My concern is Congress has done nothing to make it easier for people to immigrate legally. If we need the labor, make it easier. Illegal immigration should not be tolerated.

        To me that’s the issue. Congress.

          • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            10 months ago

            We can read a license plate from space. We can easily track and remove immigrants.

            If we punished those who hired them harshly, you think they’d hire illegals? Imagine if the ceo for Tyson chicken went to prison. You think other CEO’s would take note?

            • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              Here is a prosecution summary page of the Iran-Contra scandal: https://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/prosecutions.php

              Despite all the clearly illegal activity, only one guy got 16 months prison for lying on his tax returns. Everybody else got probation or pardoned.

              So I don’t think a well connected poultry CEO would ever actually do time for such a thing. It’s a nice thought tho.

              I agree there needs to be better pathways to legal immigration. The US population growth is slowing and is projected to decline. Need more Americans.

              • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                10 months ago

                Well currently there is nothing to arrest them under. We’d need congress to create a law to do it. Since they won’t fix the border. I can’t see them creating a law to punish their donors .

                It’s a nice idea to hold people accountable.

    • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      10 months ago

      Not even 'knowingly", if you hire illegals, you get punished. Most use the, well, we didn’t know they were illegal.

      I don’t hold a grudge against the illegals. They make more in an hour here than they’d make in a day in Mexico.

      I blame the Democrats and Republicans for different reasons.