Exactly why the aid should be tied to Ukraine. We have an obligation to defend our country first. Why are the Democrats so reluctant to defend our own border?

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    Imagine thinking that Aid to Ukraine uses the same resources as border control lmfao

    When’s the last time we used an Abrams, Bradley, F-16, or anti-fank missiles to do border patrols?

    Remember dumbass: most “10 billion dollars to Ukraine” aid packages or whatever are actually just surplus equipment, and the dollar amount is used as an approximation of value. The reality is that most of that stuff is just gonna sit in storage for another decade before being dismantled. Anything that is newer is being manufactured in the United States, meaning it is essentially government spending money on American jobs!

    And if you wanna bitch and moan about defending our country, why are Republicans stalling military promotions? Is that not a bigger problem than some minor drug running?

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      When’s the last time we used an Abrams, Bradley, F-16, or anti-fank missiles to do border patrols?

      I mean they’d be far more effective, if a bit excessive

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        They’d be a massive waste of resources as they are very obviously not designed for the job

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        So leaving the military without proper leadership isn’t a bigger deal than a handful of dudes peddling some drugs…OK lol

        We all know why Republicans are stalling out promotions anyway…if their God Trump gets back in, he can put allies into the driver’s seat. I can’t wait for the Republicans to finally go mask off and show just how “small government” they really are

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          What drug is an Ak-47 and an IED? Military isn’t in charge of the border. That’s border patrol.

          So I have no issue tying money to Ukraine in return for securing our border.

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            If you think there aren’t already guns and homemade explosives already being made in the US, I have some bad news for you…

            As for the “securing our border,” you understand that in an ideal situation the people with the bombs and guns don’t use them, right? It’s bad for business if you have to use your weapons to force a crossing every time, when there are easier ways. Furthermore, such a dramatic escalation would certainly get the military involved if it became a large enough issue, which it isn’t.

            At the same time, it is ludicrous to even put border patrol and military equipment exports in the same place, as you said it yourself: military isn’t in charge of the border.

            How about this: if we want to defend America and help Ukraine, we do a compromise of things that are actually related to the military? Let’s get our leadership sorted and in exchange we free up the blocks to giving Ukraine stuff.

            Wait…Republicans are demanding a safer America while simultaneously crippling our army leadership AND stalling out a massive windfall for our geopolitical position? Why might that be?

            You don’t get to demand shit while not even fully supporting the thing you want.

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              At the same time, it is ludicrous to even put border patrol and military equipment exports in the same place, as you said it yourself: the military isn’t in charge of the border.

              I disagree. Democrats do this all the time as well. Sometimes you have to put up a roadblock to get things done. Do the Democrats want to hate America or give Ukraine money more?