A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.

A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.

  • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
    83·
    11 months ago

    The ones in poverty are mostly ones who came later on in the 1990’s from former Soviet Union, and usually didn’t or couldn’t contact authorities or know about what they deserve because of the language barrier - As many of them only speak Russian.
    It’s incredibly unfortunate, and almost all Israeli Jews see supporting them and helping them as important.

    Imagine those poor government aid workers who want to help all the Holocaust survivors but just can’t figure out who they are because they don’t speak Russian! Must be awful for them!

    • TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.idEnglish
      22·
      11 months ago

      I think the point is simply that there are language barriers that create problems. This is totally believable and is a coordinating issue in any country where there are immigrants who need social services but don’t speak the primary language. Not everything has to be down to all Israelis being bad people and not actually giving a fuck.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Nobody said all Israelis are bad. I’m American so I know all about shitty countries having a lot of good people in them.

      • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
        83·
        11 months ago

        But even if they do, they still remain in poverty and are mistreated. It’s a symptom of what Israel is… When you drop the rights of some people, you don’t stop, you keep dropping the rights of more people.

        Here’s a good report on it: https://youtu.be/KMIIxCR2utQ?feature=shared

          • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
            51·
            11 months ago

            The video answers your first question. I would recommend watching it.

            Have you done that? It only interviews Israelis and you can hear it from the mouths of holocaust survivors themselves.

            I’m not talking about rising living costs. I’m talking about holocaust survivors picking leftover fruit from the ground after the grocery stalls close down.

              • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
                41·
                11 months ago

                I’m so familiar with this because I’m Israeli and my grandparents were holocaust survivors. Part of the reason I’ve volunteered in the past to help survivors like the ones in the video.

                That’s lovely! Good on you… still baffles me that you are refusing to see the issue here.

                but those kids are a minority and if I knew where this was I could guess which group they’re from.

                At the beginning it says they saw 13 holocaust survivor go through rubbish fruit and vegetables to be able to eat. You can say “rising living costs” all you want. If Israel respected holocaust survivors, rising living cost should never play a role, especially given all the funding they get for just that.

                The issue seems to be widespread, not just a “couple few” here and there…

                I don’t meant to be disrespectful but your answer sounds like that of a politician trying to wiggle out of reality. The reality is that holocaust survivors are mistreated, maybe in an Israel that doesn’t care about them or anyone anymore.

                  • ???@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    41·
                    11 months ago

                    Nowhere did I say there are just a “couple few”.

                    but those kids are a minority

                    I think you tried to downplay their numbers… another indication of this being a “politician’s answer”: make the issue look smaller than it is, make it look like a “normal”/“economic”/etc issue (that holocaust survivors beg on the street and eat bad food), blame the current person in power.

                    Edit: I want to say, excuse my skepticism when it comes to a country that abuses not only Palestinians but also Jewish people, like holocaust survivors or all that jazz in the Yemenite Children Affair. It’s enticing to think that Bibi is behind all this, but to me, it looks more like there is something systemically wrong about Israel and Israeli society in its current format.