Young people in China are becoming more rebellious, questioning their nation’s traditional expectations of career and family

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Amazing arc, like watching the last 120 years in the US compressed down to a couple decades. From rural to industrial powerhouse to the kids going “fuck this shit”.

    What’s next?

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      10 months ago

      It’s like watching a speedrun: Capitalism any%.

      Next? Some of them have to be thinking “wait, this is a communist country, isn’t it?”

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        10 months ago

        I don’t think anyone think of China as a communist/socialist country for a very long time. Maybe except older generations and tankies.

        Ironically, I have met more tankies in six month on lemmy than my 18 years growing up in China. It is truly a wild culture shock that I didn’t expect. LOL.

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          10 months ago

          A “tankie” isn’t a communist anymore than an American Republican wants individual freedom.

          Anyone that supports China is going to say it’s communist, and anyone from the right shitting on China is going to say they’re communist.

          But both groups are pretty much the same and no one should listen to either

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            My pet conspiracy theory is that a bunch of tankies are actually CIA trolls, in an effort to tie criticism of the US together with completely bonkers causes. The end goal being that if you think the US is not the best thing ever, you must be a tankie, and you support authoritarian regimes like Iran and China.

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              Some of the tankie(bots) I have argued with on here are so contrarian that it seems that way to me, as well. They don’t try to argue in good faith, and they never concede no matter how much they are proven wrong. I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some of them are bots or bad actors either from the CIA, China, or Russia.

          • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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            10 months ago

            The CCP doesn’t even claim that China is communist though. Idk where you’re getting that from.

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              10 months ago

              The CCP doesn’t even claim that China is communist though

              Can I get a source for the communist party of China saying they’re not communists?

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                10 months ago

                The CCP are communists though. There is no denying that. That doesn’t mean they think China is a communist country. Communism to them doesn’t just mean the communists are in power. Communism to them is more of an ideal they aim to work towards.

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                  10 months ago

                  That’s not a source…

                  And it’s like saying American Republican voters want personal freedom.

                  It doesn’t matter what someone says if their actions are the opposite

                  • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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                    10 months ago

                    A source for what? You asked the question,

                    Can I get a source for the communist party of China saying they’re not communists?

                    I’m trying to clarify what I said because it sounds like you misinterpreted me. If you want a source of the CCP saying that they think China is not yet communist that’s an entirely different question altogether.

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          Without draconian censorship you can’t really replicate the experience of Chinese social media. I mean, I’m sure I’d be able to say things like sprinkling pepper 撒胡椒面 or facilitating commerce while loosening my clothing 通商宽衣.

          Just doesn’t feel the same.

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        10 months ago

        I mean, that was almost a national sport over there, before the CPC.

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      Fascism of course, just like we are heading towards.

      To be clear, I violently oppose fascism, just that it seems to be to historical outcome of socially disconnected youth about the time they hit adulthood. Those disaffected youth become the audience that charismatic dictator-wannabes can manipulate.

      China MAY be able to avoid this as their social controls are far more strict but with the internet and how tech savvy the disaffected Chinese youth are, this isn’t a guarantee.

      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Yes blame the “youth” when the average age of our politicians is 65. Makes perfect sense.

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            10 months ago

            What you mean like the fucking Boomers who keep voting for these pieces of shit? Yeah I agree.

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            10 months ago

            Yes this is true but there is nothing you can do to fix gullible people so no action can be taken to mitigate their idiocy.

            I don’t care about blame, I just want to stop our nation from falling into fascism.

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          10 months ago

          They’re going to be dead soon from old age, I’m more worried about all the gamergaters and magapedes that will be old enough to vote this year and all the elections afterward.

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        10 months ago

        China is already essentially an authoritarian dictatorship. There’s no big leap to fascism for them, they just need to fetishize the military and act more nationalistic than they already do. They’re already prejudicial, blaming minorities within for all sorts of problems, attempting to control speech and thought, etc.

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          10 months ago

          China has other problems right now which is why they are playing nice, they’re heading into a population collapse and it’s gonna be real messy.

          They already fetishize the military and are nationalistic AF, but they also have leadership more invested in the status quo than becoming the dominant military, so their new weapons are finance and trade instead of bombs and bullets. That said, they have a FUCKTONNE of bombs and bullets and MILLIONS of people willing to use them.